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Alex-C wrote:And if so - what do you do when you hear a great track that you want to buy, but can't find on any format other than vinyl?

My turntables are in storage because I have no room in my flat for them - and I'm not sure if I'll ever use them again, as I'm considering CD decks (yes, that's a whole different argument) - however I'm just curious as to whether anybody else doesn't have access to turntables, and what they do in this circumstance?

torrent it. If labels can't be bothered to do a digital release then what do they expect.

My VESTAX have been in the basement for time. Fucking longage. I stopped being interested in Vinyl about the time that MP3s could be had for £1.

I think something that is sadly missing from the mp3 downloads or free files you get with some records is ....the sound of the vinyl. if its not taken from the vinyl, its just a clean digital file.

maybe i'm a dinosaur but i like the sound of the vinyl. defects and all.

geiom wrote:I think something that is sadly missing from the mp3 downloads or free files you get with some records is ....the sound of the vinyl. if its not taken from the vinyl, its just a clean digital file.

maybe i'm a dinosaur but i like the sound of the vinyl. defects and all.

well you clearly have turntables

what would be missing if you didnt have turntables is - listening to the track...

There is obviously a gap in the market....




* sets up an mp3 shop of original FLAC/WAVS with extra static added over the top

providing mp3s along with the vinyl is great in my opinion, just for convenience alone. Ninja Tune added a download card with Sixtoo's latest album on vinyl.
Of course there is a purpose with labels doing vinyl only releases and I also do think that vinyl is more authentic than a CD or file but you should not forget that Dubstep is music that is mainly made digitally, so in that sense the digital releases are closer to the "real thing" if you will.
Still it's about vinyl to me and props to Soul Motive for providing the digital release along with the vinyl. It saves me from downloading rips from bogus russian message boards which sometimes sound like crap and I end up ripping my vinyls again.

Sell the code from the shop.

Invent the "Do you want vinyl or digital"-standard frase.

boogs wrote:but you should not forget that Dubstep is music that is mainly made digitally, so in that sense the digital releases are closer to the "real thing" if you will.

actually I believe its because dubstep is mainly made digitally that a digital format is less desirable because when a digital file is pressed to vinyl its sort of a de facto conversion to analogue.

For me vinyl only releases are a pain in the ass. I don't have turntables, i use ableton live both for production and djing. When there are tracks that i ABSOLUTELY want and are only on vinyl i end up paying the vinyl, ripping it to a WAV and reselling the vinyl. And i think i'm not the only one doing this, but really, i'm not interested at all nor in the sound of vinyl or the format per se.

BTW, i'v just ordered zomby's last two ep's and Scuba's ep with jamie vex'd & martyn's remixes. If anybody wants them just PM me!

Personally, I don't have turntables and probably never will. I have a MASSIVE list of tracks on my rememberthemilk list that are pretty much all vinyl only releases that I have to check through 5-6 download places every now and then to see if they've finally gotten a digital release. This is getting really, really annoying now. Which is why I always jump at the chance to buy unmixed compilations of former vinyl releases like the Skull Disco ones and the Chestplate CD that came with Distance's new album.

I try and buy music whenever I can, but when I can't I'll download a crap version of it for free, then try and remember to buy a proper copy of it later as I hate crap quality music (again, if I can that is).
Any CDs I buy are instantly ripped to FLAC (for when iPods actually support it) and mp3 (yes I do both, and yes, it is taking up a LOT of hard drive space now, but that is nothing compared to the amount of room an equivalent vinyl collection would take up!) and put in a box in the loft. Exactly the same thing would happen if I had the money or the inclination to buy vinyl.
I'm an inherently lazy person, so I like the immediacy of being able to pretty much instantly find a track from years ago that I've just remembered and listen to it again, not have to go and find the bloody thing in X amount of boxes somewhere!
And no matter how much I love a track at the time, my tastes always progress and something would replace it as a favorite and it would get taken down from pride of place and put somewhere else with all the rest anyway.

Obviously there's no tangible thing for me to hold in my hand, but I'm not the sort of person that needs that kind of thing to get into and have a bond with the music I listen to.
I'm quite obsessive with file naming, ID3 tagging and making sure I have a decent quality image of the artwork to go with it, so maybe that brings me a bit closer to them, but I doubt it.

It must surely be possible for the mastering engineers to make the digital copies sound the same as the vinyls on the same speakers??? It's all sound when it comes out at the end of the day.

edit: sorry for the rant, but been wanting to vent that for some time now!

all about grabbin the wax out the sleeve, wackin it on the deck and mixin it into the ones thats already spinning...

from a listener point of view only, it personalises the sound a bit to have tunes on vinyl that u cant have on mp3, and to be able to mix them up in your own way. makes it a bit more special.

i know its costly, but its just one of those things. havin sumin tangible, a collection, the finer sound quality, etc

also works better for me cos my decks are in a seperate room away from everyone in the house so i can crank it up, where as my computer is in my room where the sound leaks loads so i sumtimes just keep the volume quite low unless nobody is home lol. besides im around the computer so much, its a welcome change to appreciate my music thru a different platform and in a different place.

I buy, collect and play off vinyl but don't own turntables and never have