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ms2000b and microkorg combo.... hahaha

i have had both those synths.

JUST sold my ms2000b for 500$, fried my micro with too much power one night very very very stoned. bad times as i had written that baby to perfection!

powerpill wrote:

dubluke wrote:

Abs wrote:When I saw Bass Clef he had nothing but drum machines, synths and a trombone, it was brilliant, I don't know why the dubstep scene (a lot like the jungle scene) puts up with all their favourite djs just spinning records when you go to see them.. how is that a performance? it's no different to listening to tunes by anyone, sure they may be dubplates, but it's still just a record being played.

yeah we should be demanding more from those damned lazy DJ's!!

lexactly man. how have dj's pulled the wool over peoples eyes for so long????? i feel like such a mug now

Also what's with all these repetitive beats? And why is the bass always so loud? Why can't they make nice music like Kenny G? Now there was someone who knew how to put on a good show...

Abs wrote:When I saw Bass Clef he had nothing but drum machines, synths and a trombone, it was brilliant, I don't know why the dubstep scene (a lot like the jungle scene) puts up with all their favourite djs just spinning records when you go to see them.. how is that a performance? it's no different to listening to tunes by anyone, sure they may be dubplates, but it's still just a record being played..

More of it i say (live stuff)

now...not intended as a shameless plug but if you are interested in live controllerist dubstep and improvisation...i've posted a live set in the mixes section... http://www.dubstepforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=66379

My hardware stretches to a Novation X-Station and a Kaoss Pad... I love hardware, but I can't afford a lot more at the moment, so I tend to rely on a lot of controllers at the moment. I really fancy some outboard effects though... a nice fat filter or something.

Hardware! Ah yes the power of a motorola chip!

my mate has an access virus TI which he uses in his dubstep tunes, it is a thing of beauty

I actually have an interesting set up. No hardware per say but an ingenius application of hardware.
I'll make a thread with a tutorial soon.

i dont, but i do have 7 pairs of monitors/speakers.

used to have a mpc1000 but sold it due to being poor i miss that little red and blue monster


once i have money hardware all the way though.

virus is first on my list.

decklyn wrote:I actually have an interesting set up. No hardware per say but an ingenius application of hardware.
I'll make a thread with a tutorial soon.

^^^^WHOS THIS GUY???

but on the real...

my crew recently played a show with EOTO

they were all hardware (even sequenced off of an Akai)

they absolutely murdered it!!!

some stuff was glitch-y some was dubstep-y

regardless, they soundeed like the music was coming off of a record (in a good way)

I went into the show rather skeptical, but OMG I was blown the f*ck away

eoto

so anyways, i think what i meant in starting this thread was more in the way recording techniques and sampling odd sounds etc.

the main reason i find this forum/genre interesting is because the methods are so software centric. I've always been interested in the dub aesthetic ... software is the evolution.

I have a couple things which never gets used. I just set up my guitar with new strings and stuff. Might start doing some stuff with that. I still would like to get a classic synth like an old Juno or something. I would defo like to at least have the option of using analog. TBH I don't have the patience for hardware.

always want more hardware
plus i have an affinity for older comps/gaming systems that can make sounds
currently own:
c64, amiga 2000, and reg pc comp wise
akai s2000, boss sp202, alesis micron
gameboy, nes, genesis
have some various amps sitting around and looking to expand/circuit bend some shit as well

-boring wrote: so anyways, i think what i meant in starting this thread was more in the way recording techniques and sampling odd sounds etc.

I am all about hardware

And am just stepping into the software arena for recording purposes because I just can't see using my analog 8-track these days.

So my recording setup is as follows:

Mixer = Spirit M12
--channels 1-8 routed to audio interface
Interface= Echo Layla 20bit (its old but works for now)

Gear list:
Emu Command Station driving:
--Novation A-Station
--Korg ms2000r
Akai MPC-500 driving:
--Oberheim Matrix-6
--Kawai K3
Ensoniq ASR-X (self driven)
Korg Electribes (self driven)
--EA
--ER
--EM

Configuration Example
This is the audio and midi routing for the song I am using to "prove" the methodology that I am experimenting with while recording. I am salvaging a couple of pieces I wrote on the ASR-X as part of retiring the device.

Command Station
--Master Clock
--Audio to channel 1
Midi Chain 1
--ER = Audio Channel 2
--EA = Audio Channel 3
--EM = Audio Channel 4
Midi Chain 2
--A-station = Audio channel 5
--MS2000 = Audio Channel 6
--MPC = Audio Channel 7
--ASRX = Audio Channel 8

The approach will be to play the song on the gear listed as if it was a live performance. Each device wil be captured on its own audio track allowing distinct patterns/patches to be manipulated during the recording. Muting/soloing/tweaking instruments and arrangements on each device.

Basically a 15-20 minute jam session to establish the primary groove and flow of the song and create a giant lump of audio comprised of the highlights etc from each of the devices used.

This audio lump will then be chopped up and edited into an actual "song" within a software reality. This will allow me to exploit nuances from the jam session while maintaining the cohesion of the "live feel."

From a workflow perspective it may seem extremely convoluted but it allows me to take advantage of not only what I am comfortable with in the studio but also forces me to be selective in laying out patterns/patches on each of the devices before hand and really "getting to know" the feel of the song before committing it to recording. Think of each device as an individual musician in the studio. Rehearsal is paramount.

I have a couple of other pieces of kit (Guitar/Bass/micro cassete recordings/drums et al) that I will use to "spice up" the snap-shot performances as well as bringing some folks into the studio to add various elements (vocals/additonal guitar etc)

I have the layout written up for each of 12 or so "songs" (2 of which are Dub-Step) that I am doing for my winter project but the basic process will be as listed above.

Ory wrote:I seem to recall that 2000F has quite a studio setup..

Ory wrote:I seem to recall that 2000F has quite a studio setup..

Ory wrote:I seem to recall that 2000F has quite a studio setup..

Ory wrote:I seem to recall that 2000F has quite a studio setup..

Ory wrote:I seem to recall that 2000F has quite a studio setup..

I got some hardware and I love it. There are alot of cool synths out there that give a unique tone or sound that cant really be replicated using a VST.
Loose the idea that just because you are a broke pot head, you cant afford gear. If you stop looking at all the brand new gear and go on ebay or craigslist and start looking at the used shit....there are some really cool older/used synths/samplers ect one can buy for only a few hundred bucks....

They WILL sound different than your fruity loops synth...
Also, if you buy used it wont depreciate the way a new synth will....You could buy it, use it for a few months and then sell it if you arent feeling it.

And yes you dont need hardware to make good music, lots of ppl create amazing music everyday with only a computer and a midi controller, but if you are looking for something to spice up your creative experience go buy some gear!

I use a fair amount of hardware in my setup, both live and in the studio. TBH though, unless you are buying something analog, software will beat most hardware digital synths in terms of flexibility, integration, and price. After all, its running on a microproccesor and is essentially the same dsp techniques on imbedded systems. Or if you have an older computer and are looking to take the strain of it with something like the virus TI would be worth it. Having said that though, i would never get rid of my modular synth. Its a pain in the ass to work with sometimes, but i get so many unique sounds out of it that its worth its space/time it takes up.

W O O G I E wrote:I got some hardware and I love it. There are alot of cool synths out there that give a unique tone or sound that cant really be replicated using a VST.
Loose the idea that just because you are a broke pot head, you cant afford gear. If you stop looking at all the brand new gear and go on ebay or craigslist and start looking at the used shit....there are some really cool older/used synths/samplers ect one can buy for only a few hundred bucks....

They WILL sound different than your fruity loops synth...
Also, if you buy used it wont depreciate the way a new synth will....You could buy it, use it for a few months and then sell it if you arent feeling it.

And yes you dont need hardware to make good music, lots of ppl create amazing music everyday with only a computer and a midi controller, but if you are looking for something to spice up your creative experience go buy some gear!

is this the woogie who did painting a rhythm on taciturn?

i use Barry Manilow records all the time.