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thnx!

claro intellecto. helical scan. maurizio. bitstream. oliver ho. surgeon. john tejada.

it's great to see all those names mentioned in the context of dubstep but i wonder who'll be the first dubstep dj to genuinely join the dots and start playing loefah and skream next to broken brum techno like recent regis and female on sandwell district, rsb and infrastructure?

after all, surgeon's been playing vex'd alongside jeff mills for at least a year already.

Im working on a mix...its taking time but it will hopefully join some of the dots as you put it...

The new female stuff is essentially future music...bass driven and minimal...that RSB 3 the advanced bossa remixes, one tune on there is industrial ragga...female for me is the man at the moment, he is releasing some quality tuneage...

Uberdog does pretty well in joining the dots between styles...check out his spetember mix and the Emergency mixes from him and Surgeon...

I also think the Werk releases are pushing the barrier in every direction, there are many influences in those releases...

The problem i think for DJ's is the audience where they play, i can't imagine peeps playing surgeon at DMZ or Forward>> there was enough trouble when they started playing grime there!! It is a very small amount of people that want to hear the music put in this format....

this week

Root/ Goat snare - Loefah - DMZ 06

No Dibby Dibby - Daddy Lizard - Jammy's

Whats going on - Marvin Gaye - £3 in the Exchange!

Quiet Place - Horace Andy - Gorgon Revival

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<<The problem i think for DJ's is the audience where they play, i can't imagine peeps playing surgeon at DMZ or Forward>> there was enough trouble when they started playing grime there!!>>

that's a key issue. if dubstep really is on some sort of cutting edge (and i think in some ways it probably is) then exactly why does its natural audience appear so conservative?

(there's a lot more to say here but i'll save it for when i'm less tired...)

fseq wrote:quote:
<<The problem i think for DJ's is the audience where they play, i can't imagine peeps playing surgeon at DMZ or Forward>> there was enough trouble when they started playing grime there!!>>

that's a key issue. if dubstep really is on some sort of cutting edge (and i think in some ways it probably is) then exactly why does its natural audience appear so conservative?

(there's a lot more to say here but i'll save it for when i'm less tired...)

I think the attitude is due to how people have grown up and what musical influences they have had along the way. It seems that most dubstep peeps were in to jungle and d&b, and got dissollusioned as d&b dissappeared up its own arse...hence the breakstep....people went to jungle raves to listen to jungle, and to d&b raves for d&b and thats it, they don't want to hear anything else...which is fair enough...but there must come a time when the musical ideas meet...

For some peeps its different...i feel coming from a background of techno and electro that these two musical fields have a lot in common with dubstep...the minimal production and the overall "coldness" of the tracks hene why surgeon had been caning vex'd tunes for so long...they fit well with the Brum style of techno...the tracks are pressed at 138 bpm which fits perfectly with techno...

I guess what im trying to say is that there is a much bigger picture, and dubstep is being played by a wide variety of people outside of the DJ's and producers who created it, but perhaps not in a way that they ever envisaged it being played...

cyrus - indian stomp tp
d1 - identify
Loefa - goat stare

DJ Krave wrote:cyrus - indian stomp tp

I want it!

Zefa wrote:

fseq wrote:quote:
<<The problem i think for DJ's is the audience where they play, i can't imagine peeps playing surgeon at DMZ or Forward>> there was enough trouble when they started playing grime there!!>>

that's a key issue. if dubstep really is on some sort of cutting edge (and i think in some ways it probably is) then exactly why does its natural audience appear so conservative?

(there's a lot more to say here but i'll save it for when i'm less tired...)

I think the attitude is due to how people have grown up and what musical influences they have had along the way. It seems that most dubstep peeps were in to jungle and d&b, and got dissollusioned as d&b dissappeared up its own arse...hence the breakstep....people went to jungle raves to listen to jungle, and to d&b raves for d&b and thats it, they don't want to hear anything else...which is fair enough...but there must come a time when the musical ideas meet...

For some peeps its different...i feel coming from a background of techno and electro that these two musical fields have a lot in common with dubstep...the minimal production and the overall "coldness" of the tracks hene why surgeon had been caning vex'd tunes for so long...they fit well with the Brum style of techno...the tracks are pressed at 138 bpm which fits perfectly with techno...

I guess what im trying to say is that there is a much bigger picture, and dubstep is being played by a wide variety of people outside of the DJ's and producers who created it, but perhaps not in a way that they ever envisaged it being played...

not that a fwd audience are conservative - the reaction to that is all about grime, specifically. some fwd audience jus feel grime mc-ing detracts from/doesn't fit too well with dubstep.

missused wrote:not that a fwd audience are conservative - the reaction to that is all about grime, specifically. some fwd audience jus feel grime mc-ing detracts from/doesn't fit too well with dubstep.

true...
i never heard complains about plasticman (ie non-MC-grime), or any other dj... and i don't think it would be any even if they put techno electro dj (if he's good tho)...
actually plasticman is "best dj" according to votes on this forum

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