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Posted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 5:30 pm
by *grand*
, as long as dubstep doesn't grow 2 quickly then the longer i think it will be around, i know its a small scene only about 3000 strong worldwide.. but tbh its all good.. the small pool of people involved are dedicated and thats what is essential when scenes start to explode well..
then we get all the fakers...and i would hate for FWD to become like another Smoove just with dubstep being played... i use to attend that on a regs at ministry of sound.... fucking fakers anyways whatever happens hold tight my dubstep family i know who u all are.
Posted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 5:38 pm
by seckle
way bigger than 3000 worldwide. i'd say the forum represents about 1/8th or even 1/12 of the worldwide numbers. the dubstepwarz mp3 was downloaded by way over 20,000 people.
Posted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 5:53 pm
by diablo
Posted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 6:20 pm
by kion
Posted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 6:53 pm
by cogent
Seems to be going well from where I'm sitting, still can't believe the explosion over the last 6 months tho... mainstream exposure has certainly helped... Getting to big to quick could be a problem but its happening so ride with it...
Posted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 7:40 pm
by retinoise
KION wrote:Dr Einstein a go-go wrote: I often think in music
Yeah but you feel this music, you don't think it - he was blatantly a trance head.
indeed...! one of the lesser known enstein breakthroughs; the glowstick
Posted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 7:40 pm
by richb
Gotta say i'm with kode 9 on this one, more cross polination with grime style tunes and riddims is needed, not too many half step techy copys, more mixing it up.. Oh, and like someone said before, more vocal tracks. can make a big difference ie more hooks.
Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 2:02 am
by adruu
ill be happy when wiley cuts an album over coki/nine/loefah tracks
Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 3:04 am
by slothrop
RichB wrote:Gotta say i'm with kode 9 on this one, more cross polination with grime style tunes and riddims is needed, not too many half step techy copys, more mixing it up.. Oh, and like someone said before, more vocal tracks. can make a big difference ie more hooks.
As long as there's DJ's mixing it up some and it doesn't all go into predictable little sub-scenes I'll be happy.
The only thing that worries me is that people getting into the music will have it drilled into them that it's all about the bass, and then it'll just get into a production arms race with everyone trying squeeze out that little bit of extra bass pressure from their big rack of EQs and compressors, and forget about actually making the tune interesting or anything. This is technically know as 'pulling a techstep.' But there's enough talented producers and good DJ's around that that doesn't look like an immediate prospect...
Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 8:04 am
by shonky
Slothrop wrote:The only thing that worries me is that people getting into the music will have it drilled into them that it's all about the bass, and then it'll just get into a production arms race with everyone trying squeeze out that little bit of extra bass pressure from their big rack of EQs and compressors, and forget about actually making the tune interesting or anything. This is technically know as 'pulling a techstep.' But there's enough talented producers and good DJ's around that that doesn't look like an immediate prospect...
Hmmmmnnnnn...I think that this might already be happening, but I think that's probably due to the converts from dnb, who from my occassional flits to DOA seem to be rather obsessed with production over musicality. If it only attracts people due to it's heaviness, bass weight, etc, then I think it's inevitable that it will get more formulaic.
I think more variety in tempo (fullstep maybe), rhythms, vocalists rather than mc's and more varied arrangements and moods would elevate the music to my ears. We need a good variety of influences coming in to keep it fresh so it'd be good to appeal to a wider, if still underground audience. Seems we have dnb, rap, techno, industrial and grime heads here so as long as people can imprint their style on the basic template and not block off new avenues all should be good.
I quite like old techstep by the way, but I think that was when it was still about music rather than production. I think the rough production of Rag'n'Bone's roster is far more interesting than hearing the same tune done with slightly different filters.