Sorry if this has been asked but is cutoff to lfo still ok for reece, just because on the first page it says don't filter. cheers.
Re: [Production Bible 2] The Reese Bass
Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2009 7:14 pm
by rubadub
moodswing wrote:
Always remember though that if you use Legato you have to turn the polyphony of your synth down to 1 (something you should almost always do with basslines because two bass-notes playing together almost never sound good in electronic music, bass chords are more the realm of prog-rock shit than dubstep)[/i]
Sorry last post was silly. Knew the answer already. Really want to know whether if you have two basslines in unison with different waveforms, is this all good. I mean I'm pretty sure it is.
Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2009 9:17 pm
by gravity
simplest reese method ever:
get ni pro53
load up initial patch
turn on second osc as a saw wave, and enable key-tracking
turn the filter cutoff down and resonance up a bit
play a low note
Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2009 10:39 pm
by deadly_habit
Rubadub wrote:Sorry if this has been asked but is cutoff to lfo still ok for reece, just because on the first page it says don't filter. cheers.
yea modulating your filters is what gives reeses it's movement
generally you're spliting it up into 3 bands and the xover points for each one being modulated are the sweet spots
Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2009 10:52 pm
by adam_john
Daft tnuc wrote:
moodswing wrote:
Daft tnuc wrote:Can someone explain me the filtering process involved after creating the sound plz?
I'm having decent results using a BP filter but using a LP + BP/HP combo, as it seems to be the way to go, leads to a lot of frustration.
I think the author of that tutorial is talking about resampling a long sustained note from the synth ,low enough but not farty, and layering 3 versions of the resulting sample in a soft sampler (he seems to be crazy about kontakt and I am behind him 100%). Then you have to apply each of the filters (lp,hp,bp) to one of the samples so you get detailed low,mid and hi layers of the sound. What I like the most in his method is that resampling always changes the source sound in unpredictable and often amazing ways. Early junglists used to use a lot of resampling not only on their reeses but on almost everything due to lack of equipment mainly but also for the lo-fi element inherent in resampling anything. Remember they used 12bit samplers so resampling changed the timbre of the sound massively.
Sorry for not making myself clear. I'm fine with the frequency splitting thing - tho I believe it doesn't necessarily applies to dubstep.
What I don't get is the filtering automation part, after the reese is created.
Maybe i'm following you, maybe not.
For me, I will run various stages of resampling and automating filter sweeps to help create the sound of the reece. doing more filter automation after you made the sound is good too, it just depends on what you are going for.
for instance, when i automate filters during my sound design, it gives me multiple options on my sustained reece note when I go back later to chop out the snippets I like. I then resample those snippets to make the bassline/tune. You can do more filter later if you want - just comes down to personal preference.
you can do this for frequency splits or for just one big sound. just really need to experiment and see what sounds best for you.
hopefully i understood your question, if not please disregard.
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Posted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 2:57 pm
by wil blaze
moodswing wrote:But after all isn't that the whole thing about being a gear junky? You're never satisfied no matter how many uber-expensive pieces of equipment you own. And then you die either because food is more important than dynamics or because your woman/man found out exactly how much your new Fairchild/Neve super channel strip cost and decided to murder you and sell everything in the lab to pay the mortgage
this is so how my life ends
Re: [Production Bible 2] The Reese Bass
Posted: Sun Feb 28, 2010 9:57 am
by bmills
The reese ain't in my bass but it's in my BOWL.
p.s. is that a DSF'er on the tables?
Re: [Production Bible 2] The Reese Bass
Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2011 1:54 am
by Estondo
so im relatively new to the dubstep production scene, ive made some dubstep already and its not half bad, i just having trouble with reese', i use reason and was wondering if anyone knew a way i could get a nice rich reese out of it, ive been using a combinator, with 1 line mixer and 2 thor polysynthisizers, 1 of wich has all analog oscilators, the other has 1 analog 1 wavetable and 1 noise oscilators, but its not giving me the sound im looking for, any suggestions? oh and also i did detune all the analog oscilators except for 1 :S
Re: [Production Bible 2] The Reese Bass
Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2011 2:59 am
by Echoi
Estondo wrote:so im relatively new to the dubstep production scene, ive made some dubstep already and its not half bad, i just having trouble with reese', i use reason and was wondering if anyone knew a way i could get a nice rich reese out of it, ive been using a combinator, with 1 line mixer and 2 thor polysynthisizers, 1 of wich has all analog oscilators, the other has 1 analog 1 wavetable and 1 noise oscilators, but its not giving me the sound im looking for, any suggestions? oh and also i did detune all the analog oscilators except for 1 :S
Well, what exactly is the sound you are going for?
Malstrom saw waves are excellent for reese
Re: [Production Bible 2] The Reese Bass
Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2011 3:23 am
by rhek
Just gotta show some love for the REESE! Literally spent 2 years of my (uniformed) youth wondering how the fuck producers made 'those' sounds and massively over-complicated it in my head.
Been Reesing for 2 years now .
Re: [Production Bible 2] The Reese Bass
Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2011 3:48 pm
by sully_harmitage
there's a hi-contrast masterclass thing where he puts a sub sine under a hi-passed reese to stop phasing in the low end = chunkier sound.
also putting a tiny bit of lfo on the pitch of each osc makes it sound Well Analog.
Re: [Production Bible 2] The Reese Bass
Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2011 11:32 pm
by Estondo
Echoi wrote:
Estondo wrote:so im relatively new to the dubstep production scene, ive made some dubstep already and its not half bad, i just having trouble with reese', i use reason and was wondering if anyone knew a way i could get a nice rich reese out of it, ive been using a combinator, with 1 line mixer and 2 thor polysynthisizers, 1 of wich has all analog oscilators, the other has 1 analog 1 wavetable and 1 noise oscilators, but its not giving me the sound im looking for, any suggestions? oh and also i did detune all the analog oscilators except for 1 :S
Well, what exactly is the sound you are going for?
Malstrom saw waves are excellent for reese
what would i do with that saw wave in malstrom?
Re: [Production Bible 2] The Reese Bass
Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 7:47 am
by Echoi
Estondo wrote:
Echoi wrote:
Estondo wrote:so im relatively new to the dubstep production scene, ive made some dubstep already and its not half bad, i just having trouble with reese', i use reason and was wondering if anyone knew a way i could get a nice rich reese out of it, ive been using a combinator, with 1 line mixer and 2 thor polysynthisizers, 1 of wich has all analog oscilators, the other has 1 analog 1 wavetable and 1 noise oscilators, but its not giving me the sound im looking for, any suggestions? oh and also i did detune all the analog oscilators except for 1 :S
Well, what exactly is the sound you are going for?
Malstrom saw waves are excellent for reese
what would i do with that saw wave in malstrom?
Whatever you like.
You still havent said what it is exactly you're trying to achieve
Re: [Production Bible 2] The Reese Bass
Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 8:40 am
by thierry_le_dj
I Love Reese Bass
thanks for this thread.
Re: [Production Bible 2] The Reese Bass
Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 12:27 pm
by Estondo
Echoi wrote:
Estondo wrote:
Echoi wrote:
Estondo wrote:so im relatively new to the dubstep production scene, ive made some dubstep already and its not half bad, i just having trouble with reese', i use reason and was wondering if anyone knew a way i could get a nice rich reese out of it, ive been using a combinator, with 1 line mixer and 2 thor polysynthisizers, 1 of wich has all analog oscilators, the other has 1 analog 1 wavetable and 1 noise oscilators, but its not giving me the sound im looking for, any suggestions? oh and also i did detune all the analog oscilators except for 1 :S
Well, what exactly is the sound you are going for?
Malstrom saw waves are excellent for reese
what would i do with that saw wave in malstrom?
Whatever you like.
You still havent said what it is exactly you're trying to achieve
im looking for something grimey and dark, but i dont want it to sound like a distortioned guitar, thats what i keep ending up with when i tried out malstrom, and, if you have any other ways to make some grimey reese' imparting that knowledge with me would be most appreciated, like i said im relatively new to all this so, im not going to understand all the "technical terms" so if you could just dumb it down a bit that would be appreciated as well.