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thecatinside wrote: Where's the difference? Pairing substantives with adjectives or pairing substantives with other substantives that carry a certain meaning and values? Why is other good and other bullshit?

the difference is...

one is describing music

the other is labeling

I don't have to explain this

why do we have to sub categorize everything?

People love when everything is under control, everything is systematized and labeled. They feel much better and safer then. They can place himself. Chaos is scaring. It is natural and in genes.

Caeraphym wrote:

Drake6 wrote:I definately feel this. If we dont allow label we create an evolutionary bottleneck with dubstep.

Sorry to take your quote out of context maybe, but BOLLOCKS tbh.

If you haven't got a name/label/genre id tag for the music you're creating does that mean that it ceases to exist? pfft...

Ya got me there. Cheers to that.

I find it kind of funny when producers blame journalists / bloggers / internet geeks for making the music predictable and generic by coming up with names for subgenres and stuff.

Clue: talking about stuff online doesn't make boring predictable tunes, producers make boring predictable tunes. If you don't want to get pigeonholed, don't make tunes that sound a lot like everyone else.

I guess the whole thing I'm trying to get out of this post, and thecatinside touched on it a bit is organization. As a DJ, when I'm in a vinyl store or cruisin for tunes online, it would save a lot of my time if I could look through a certain type of dubstep. I can't tell you how many hours I've spent listening to stuff that I would never play just due to it not being my style. I mean with DnB I can go to a record store knowing the sound I'm looking for and devote my time listening to stuff I want. Granted listening to other styles to broaden my horizons wouldn't hurt either, but when I want to spend only a little amount of time in the record store, I wasnt to feel that I got exactly what I wanted and I didn't pass something up because i didn't have time to get to it. I mean just from hearing the discussions about Rusko on here, if there was a rusko-step section, a lot of you would be able to cruise past it and not waste your time and go straight to those reggae-dub tunes or whatever you had in mind when you started you shopping.

Slothrop wrote:I find it kind of funny when producers blame journalists / bloggers / internet geeks for making the music predictable and generic by coming up with names for subgenres and stuff.

Clue: talking about stuff online doesn't make boring predictable tunes, producers make boring predictable tunes. If you don't want to get pigeonholed, don't make tunes that sound a lot like everyone else.

I kinda agree, but I kinda can see the other side too:

Even if you make "unpredictable" tunes, once others do the same thing and a name is given to it "Randomcore" in Computer Music mag, congratulations, you've been pigeonholed again.

Not that I'm taking sides. I don't mind sub-labeling. When I first get into a genre, I didn't mind clicking for hours through Beatport / iTunes to find stuff. But once I know what I want, its just a hassle.

I DO agree, however, that D&B style "only-one-sound-per-Event" stuff is retarded. Live events should be more free-ended.

nowaysj wrote:those people refers to people that derive their identity from their "scene affiliation", rather than actually liking a particular music. Feel free to kick those people in the teeth.

+1

u guys do realize that you're not going to be able to kill *-step... ever

futures_untold wrote:

nowaysj wrote:those people refers to people that derive their identity from their "scene affiliation", rather than actually liking a particular music. Feel free to kick those people in the teeth.

+1

Nail. Head.