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Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 8:28 pm
by dubsteptim
really good read, thanks.

Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 8:56 pm
by mondays child
Just check El B's myspace, there's some killer tunes 'pon there. The guys still a legend. Awesome interview as well....

Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 10:24 am
by dubstee
This interview is an embarassment. The guy's in his early 30s and he spends a large portion of a 4 page interview talking about girls and fighting! Obviously he is a legend, musically, but he comes across like a massive twat here.

Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 12:37 pm
by ory
spooKs wrote:
Ory wrote:not really feeling his new dubstep ("Big Movement" was decent) but I'm keen on hearing his funky stuff as it seems like he's well versed in latin percussion.
Have you heard Bodynod though? BAPS have been playing it...
don't think I've heard it. which particular show?

Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 12:57 pm
by clarkycatdealer
"
This interview is an embarassment. The guy's in his early 30s and he spends a large portion of a 4 page interview talking about girls and fighting! Obviously he is a legend, musically, but he comes across like a massive twat here."


whats wrong with girls and fighting?anyway he only talks about fighting in respect to himself when dealing with nutcases in brixton. fair enough.

Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 1:14 pm
by dubstee
clarkycatDealer wrote:"
This interview is an embarassment. The guy's in his early 30s and he spends a large portion of a 4 page interview talking about girls and fighting! Obviously he is a legend, musically, but he comes across like a massive twat here."

whats wrong with girls and fighting?anyway he only talks about fighting in respect to himself when dealing with nutcases in brixton. fair enough.
He sounds like a 14 year old.

Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 1:49 pm
by d+
dubstee wrote:
clarkycatDealer wrote:"
This interview is an embarassment. The guy's in his early 30s and he spends a large portion of a 4 page interview talking about girls and fighting! Obviously he is a legend, musically, but he comes across like a massive twat here."

whats wrong with girls and fighting?anyway he only talks about fighting in respect to himself when dealing with nutcases in brixton. fair enough.
He sounds like a 14 year old.
its real life

also endorse & set it is a bad tune

Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 1:57 pm
by dubstee
D+ wrote:
dubstee wrote:
clarkycatDealer wrote:"
This interview is an embarassment. The guy's in his early 30s and he spends a large portion of a 4 page interview talking about girls and fighting! Obviously he is a legend, musically, but he comes across like a massive twat here."

whats wrong with girls and fighting?anyway he only talks about fighting in respect to himself when dealing with nutcases in brixton. fair enough.
He sounds like a 14 year old.
its real life
Sorry, I forgot about the need of people from south London to keep it real.

Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 1:58 pm
by d+
dubstee wrote:
D+ wrote:
dubstee wrote:
clarkycatDealer wrote:"
This interview is an embarassment. The guy's in his early 30s and he spends a large portion of a 4 page interview talking about girls and fighting! Obviously he is a legend, musically, but he comes across like a massive twat here."

whats wrong with girls and fighting?anyway he only talks about fighting in respect to himself when dealing with nutcases in brixton. fair enough.
He sounds like a 14 year old.
its real life
Sorry, I forgot about the need of people from south London to keep it real.
no problem

Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 2:13 pm
by elgato
D+ wrote:
dubstee wrote:
D+ wrote:
dubstee wrote:
clarkycatDealer wrote:"
This interview is an embarassment. The guy's in his early 30s and he spends a large portion of a 4 page interview talking about girls and fighting! Obviously he is a legend, musically, but he comes across like a massive twat here."

whats wrong with girls and fighting?anyway he only talks about fighting in respect to himself when dealing with nutcases in brixton. fair enough.
He sounds like a 14 year old.
its real life
Sorry, I forgot about the need of people from south London to keep it real.
no problem
lol

Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 2:19 pm
by bandshell
Listen to the music man, I think tarantinos a twat but his films are ace, surely it's their art that matters not how they act, obviously that is important too but not anywhere near as important as the tunes. El-B is a sick producer and a lot of people recognise that and if him talking about women and fighting (which we all like, well maybe not so much fighting but women! :P ahaha) puts you off then I'm baffled.

Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 2:42 pm
by setspeed
dubstee wrote:This interview is an embarassment. The guy's in his early 30s and he spends a large portion of a 4 page interview talking about girls and fighting! Obviously he is a legend, musically, but he comes across like a massive twat here.
who does it embarrass?

i don't think he comes across as a twat at all - i think he comes across as an engaging, enthusiastic bloke who will chat about anything.

top interview, really enjoyed it.

Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 2:42 pm
by grievous_angel
Fantastic interview. Big up Joe Muggs, superb work.

Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 2:53 pm
by cryyourselftoash
'my boy Scottish Steve... Kode 9 - he's got his own sound, his own little corner'

hilarious! hyperdub get the El-B stamp of approval!

but you totally see what Burial was aiming for when he wanted to keep himself unknown. For example how Photek was some unbelievable music rather then just Rupert Parks sitting in a studio. And this interview goes some way to demythologise the legend of El-B: another guy with opinions [and quite a few of em] and a business strategy.

prefer the idea of when the Ghost logo was all you had to go on.

Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 3:15 pm
by ory
I don't see how it's juvenile to talk about women in regards to dance music. After all, part of the reason dubstep is going to shit is that it's completely lost its libido.

He (El-B) does come across a bit unclear on a few points though.. maybe I just need to re-read it.

Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 3:54 pm
by badga tek
Ory wrote:I don't see how it's juvenile to talk about women in regards to dance music. After all, part of the reason dubstep is going to shit is that it's completely lost its libido.
Uh-oh I can see this thread going seriously off-road especially given the way other threads have been going recently.

I completely agree with you though Ory. The only reason some dubsteppers like myself are migrating to funky is because there are far more buff tings in the dance :wink:

Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 4:03 pm
by hopper
Badga Tek wrote:
Ory wrote:I don't see how it's juvenile to talk about women in regards to dance music. After all, part of the reason dubstep is going to shit is that it's completely lost its libido.
Uh-oh I can see this thread going seriously off-road especially given the way other threads have been going recently.

I completely agree with you though Ory. The only reason some dubsteppers like myself are migrating to funky is because there are far more buff tings in the dance
:|

Though I'd agree that the music in dubstep has massively lost its libido which was part of it's attraction. It's a point I often make about the problem in dubstep these days, it just doesn't really have that same je ne said quoi quality that it used to have. Still though, you've got producers like headhunter who are keeping it fresh and moving. It's all just too 'big fuckoff in your face atm'

Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 4:11 pm
by aleks zen
Badga Tek wrote:
Ory wrote:The only reason some dubsteppers like myself are migrating to funky is because there are far more buff tings in the dance
the idea of a DSF guy moving to a batty shakin bad gyal got me lol'ing :lol:

Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 4:42 pm
by uncle bill
hopper wrote:
Badga Tek wrote:
Ory wrote:I don't see how it's juvenile to talk about women in regards to dance music. After all, part of the reason dubstep is going to shit is that it's completely lost its libido.
Uh-oh I can see this thread going seriously off-road especially given the way other threads have been going recently.

I completely agree with you though Ory. The only reason some dubsteppers like myself are migrating to funky is because there are far more buff tings in the dance
:|

Though I'd agree that the music in dubstep has massively lost its libido which was part of it's attraction. It's a point I often make about the problem in dubstep these days, it just doesn't really have that same je ne said quoi quality that it used to have. Still though, you've got producers like headhunter who are keeping it fresh and moving. It's all just too 'big fuckoff in your face atm'
Where?

Maybe it's because I don't get out as much as some people on this forum being really old and that but I don't see this happening where I live. Maybe it's a bit more chilled out in Bristol on the whole but my only experience of dubstep in London is DMZ which was also an attitude free zone.

If you're talking about stuff like "Where's My Money" that seems a pretty small part of the scene to me. The main reason I shifted to listening to more dubstep instead of d&b / breakcore / acid etc is because it doesn't have so much of that "big fuckoff in your face" attitude that you're talking about, or at least it's easy enough to avoid if you look out for the right lineups.

There are always people in any scene making tunes for pale virgin boys to pull their screw faces to but I don't think it's just dubstep. In fact I know it isn't.

I like a lot of the tunes classed as funky as well but I think it's a shame to see the scene divided up that way. For me, the best sets get a good balance between positive, melodic tunes and hard as nails bass anthems. It's when you get whole lineups of DJs playing the same style all night with no light and shade that the general music fans who come to the scene ditch the clubs in droves. The last DMZ had Oneman playing garage anthems, Joker playing sleazy funk and Distance & Gothtrad rinsing out the hard stuff on the same lineup. For me, that's EXACTLY what this scene is about.

Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 4:44 pm
by deamonds
Uncle Bill wrote: There are always people in any scene making tunes for pale virgin boys to pull their screw faces to
hold tight them man making these sort of tunes lol