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Posted: Sat Jun 20, 2009 2:20 pm
by hurlingdervish
honestly though, if dubstep gets huge, arent all the good producers in for bouts of cash?
you should be pushing it, who the fuck cares about "selling out" if you can make money off of what your doing for fun you shouldn't be against it
Posted: Sat Jun 20, 2009 7:53 pm
by xzazael
My point is this, look at the state of dubstep already.
I have two gigantic folders of dubstep in which EVERY SINGLE ARTIST uses deep low wobble bass.
And I'm talking Benga, Kromestar, Reso, Skream, Rusko, Cotti, Coki, EVERYONE.
Look at all of those artists now, they're all making more midrange aimed bass because that's what became popular.
That's my point.
I'm adamantly against this kind of song because while it means producers get money, it also encourages the behavior of an entire scene of one sound.
Record Execs like what sell, not what you like. Wobble bass in? You can guarantee every person will be playing it. Midrange in? Everyone drop what you're doing!
Remakes with popular recording artists? Well you damn well better water down your product.
I'm not against it because waaaahhhh! dubstap is undagrund!
I'm against it because I don't want to hear a watered down product that has no soul.
Posted: Sat Jun 20, 2009 8:13 pm
by tavravlavish
the popularity of dubstep is kinda turning into worn out topic that gets brought up too much in my opinion...dubstep is huge, i got into it about a year ago, showed a couple of buddies and now a lot of people on the island i live on like it, most of them are complete douche bags who no nothing about music and listen to souja boy and then they hear a rusko tune and all the sudden theyre deeeep into dubstep... whatever though its like that with every genre and i dont really care its not like im some old head in the genre or anything, i just kinda cringe when i go out to a house party in seattle and hear some trendy indie rocker talking about how amaaaazing burial is and how nobody knows about his brilliant music. the genre will keep getting a lot of attention because some of its interesting and there is a whole lot of hype going around. sock it to me rianna1!!!
Posted: Sat Jun 20, 2009 11:57 pm
by glottis5
notch wrote:DROKKR wrote:rihanna doing dubstep?
i'd be more interested in rihanna doing me
Maybe she ups for a gang bang fuck it..
Meanwhile in other news..
Listen if Sony or another huge record label came to you and said were going to give you $50,000 and your going to produce some dubstep with rihanna singing over top of it.. Tell me... you would not go for that... Even.. if not for the money but just for the EXPOSURE they are going to get by working with her.
Chase & Status are smart as fuck for doing what they are doing and expanding the audience of dubstep...
you might even say...
*puts on sunglasses*
..they're chasing status
*YEAH*
Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 12:13 am
by hurlingdervish
glottis5 wrote:notch wrote:DROKKR wrote:rihanna doing dubstep?
i'd be more interested in rihanna doing me
Maybe she ups for a gang bang fuck it..
Meanwhile in other news..
Listen if Sony or another huge record label came to you and said were going to give you $50,000 and your going to produce some dubstep with rihanna singing over top of it.. Tell me... you would not go for that... Even.. if not for the money but just for the EXPOSURE they are going to get by working with her.
Chase & Status are smart as fuck for doing what they are doing and expanding the audience of dubstep...
you might even say...
*puts on sunglasses*
..they're chasing status
*YEAH*
get your cliche memes right outta here!
would have been a nice play on words minus the csi

Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 2:00 am
by boomstix
she should do soca
Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 5:06 am
by alphacat
TAVRAVLAVISH wrote:the popularity of dubstep is kinda turning into worn out topic that gets brought up too much in my opinion...dubstep is huge, i got into it about a year ago, showed a couple of buddies and now a lot of people on the island i live on like it, most of them are complete douche bags who no nothing about music and listen to souja boy and then they hear a rusko tune and all the sudden theyre deeeep into dubstep... whatever though its like that with every genre and i dont really care its not like im some old head in the genre or anything, i just kinda cringe when i go out to a house party in seattle and hear some trendy indie rocker talking about how amaaaazing burial is and how nobody knows about his brilliant music. the genre will keep getting a lot of attention because some of its interesting and there is a whole lot of hype going around. sock it to me rianna1!!!
Wait - you live in San Francisco?! We're not an island...

Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 4:31 pm
by tavravlavish
hah i dont live in sanfran
Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 10:16 pm
by kingcannibal
Xzazael wrote:My point is this, look at the state of dubstep already.
I have two gigantic folders of dubstep in which EVERY SINGLE ARTIST uses deep low wobble bass.
And I'm talking Benga, Kromestar, Reso, Skream, Rusko, Cotti, Coki, EVERYONE.
Look at all of those artists now, they're all making more midrange aimed bass because that's what became popular.
That's my point.
I'm adamantly against this kind of song because while it means producers get money, it also encourages the behavior of an entire scene of one sound.
Record Execs like what sell, not what you like. Wobble bass in? You can guarantee every person will be playing it. Midrange in? Everyone drop what you're doing!
Remakes with popular recording artists? Well you damn well better water down your product.
I'm not against it because waaaahhhh! dubstap is undagrund!
I'm against it because I don't want to hear a watered down product that has no soul.
Maybe Benga, Kromestar, Reso, Skream, Rusko, Cotti, Coki, EVERYONE evolves their production style in the same way people do in every other scene. Part of that will no doubt be down to the fact that people respond to it the best but also that they actually want to make stuff that way for whatever reason.
Just because something has become popular doesn't mean they've sold out. If you don't want to hear a watered down version of a product then i suggest you should just lock yourself in a room and listen to your early dubstep stuff. As a scene grows it has to expand and diversify otherwise people make the same records for years and people get bored and move on.
Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 10:45 pm
by p.t.b.d
i dont mind if dubstep gets popular that much
I just wish people who once listened to eastern jam and have a couple of rusko tracks on theyre ipod dont go on as if they know everything about the scene
most of them havent even heard of benga for gods sake
Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 2:58 am
by notch
DROKKR wrote:notch wrote:DROKKR wrote:rihanna doing dubstep?
i'd be more interested in rihanna doing me
Maybe she ups for a gang bang fuck it..
spit roast her?
we can do high fives but no looking in my eyes

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Agreed!!

Re: Rihanna doing dubstep?
Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 4:59 am
by HAACK
Really mate? thats not a good sign, the last thing the Dubstep community needs is this whole genre selling out, keep it underground, keep it home, that's one of the things that turned me from DNB to Dubstep was the community and the fact that everyone here can communicate, it's like one big family, and how would that family be if it sold out?

Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 12:25 pm
by bass_faced
grooki wrote:d1rt1989 wrote:oh god.
well theres no need to be prejudiced about it, but i'm finding it hard to see how this won't ruin my life.

Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 3:29 pm
by the get down
Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 9:54 pm
by POND LIFE
Depone wrote:I really dont mind. We dont OWNChase and status... Fair play, you have worked hard and been making shit hot tracks for 6+ years. Maybe they need some dough? at least they are exposing the scene as Pendulum (gasp) did with dnb.
you can't really compare the two. dnb was dead long before pendulum, so to 'expose' it is neither here nor there. then 95% of their tunes didn't represent dnb for what it actually was anyway, but rather a radio-friendly bastardization of it.
the thing is, dubstep doesn't -need- exposure. people in dubstep on the whole i imagine don't want the mainstream to get its claws into it, it's great as it is. anyone arguing that mainstream/commercial interference in a genre doesn't make it more watered down, lowest common denominator and otherwise crap is wrong.
Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 11:38 pm
by kingcannibal
d1rt1989 wrote:
the thing is, dubstep doesn't -need- exposure. people in dubstep on the whole i imagine don't want the mainstream to get its claws into it, it's great as it is. anyone arguing that mainstream/commercial interference in a genre doesn't make it more watered down, lowest common denominator and otherwise crap is wrong.
Yeah i sure would agree that. You know, just because a few people may do something with some commercial value does not mean the people that currently keep on making good records are about to fuck that all off and go work with The Pussycat Dolls or some shit. If you think that doesn't that show how little faith you have in these producers? Yeah it'll attract some chancers but if a scene can't stand up to that then it got no staying power anyway.
But then i wouldn't say drum & bass was dead either as there are some amazing producers out there making music right now.
Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 12:21 pm
by kingcannibal
Depone wrote:haha, the last two quotes from me have been heavily edited, and i didn't even say the last one!
Get your quotations right foo!

Sorry deleted the wrong section - corrected now.