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Andy Stott

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jackquinox wrote:Andy Stott

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yeah -i bought tthe album and the 10" . I really enjoy both.

hmm i dunno man im not so much into the sleeparchive side of things, ive heard a little of their stuff and its interesting, but as you say it seems quite similar to the basic channel and maurizio stuff i have, so i never bothered getting into it really

i suppose what im into is perhaps not best desribed as minimal techno (its certainly not that close to classic minimal ie mid-90s hawtin, jeff mills etc, although i do like that too!), its this scene which has developed over the last few years which bridges between minimal techno and minimal/click house etc, at around 130bpm or so. (the second half of this is very interesting in this regard)

ppl like villalobos, luciano, guido schneider, matthew dear (/audion), akufen, early trentemoller, wighnomy brothers, (a)pendics shuffle, mathew jonson... who i do see as quite a lot different to what was going on 10 years ago - admittedly my history (and in fact general knowledge) of techno is not amazing, but ive done a bit of digging and it doesnt seem like its going over old ground. there are so many completely fresh and exciting aesthetics developing all of the time, along with the rhythmic and atmospheric evolution

take villalobos... what he is doing within the 4x4 framework is completely off the map... those old guys were abstract but in a completely different way. did you not rate his SMY remix? that is a deep piece of music imo

but also, not a million miles away are ppl like claro intelecto and the ai and modern love lot, james holden, petter, and border community, apparat and bpitch control, booka shade and get physical, all kompakt related things, who are all doing very exciting things within a broadly uniform framework. its not one big scene as such, but there are strong enough connections for it to be drawn together into a very cohesive and exciting mix

elgato wrote:hmm i dunno man im not so much into the sleeparchive side of things, ive heard a little of their stuff and its interesting, but as you say it seems quite similar to the basic channel and maurizio stuff i have, so i never bothered getting into it really

i suppose what im into is perhaps not best desribed as minimal techno (its certainly not that close to classic minimal ie mid-90s hawtin, jeff mills etc, although i do like that too!), its this scene which has developed over the last few years which bridges between minimal techno and minimal/click house etc, at around 130bpm or so. (the second half of this is very interesting in this regard)

ppl like villalobos, luciano, guido schneider, matthew dear (/audion), akufen, early trentemoller, wighnomy brothers, (a)pendics shuffle, mathew jonson... who i do see as quite a lot different to what was going on 10 years ago - admittedly my history (and in fact general knowledge) of techno is not amazing, but ive done a bit of digging and it doesnt seem like its going over old ground. there are so many completely fresh and exciting aesthetics developing all of the time, along with the rhythmic and atmospheric evolution

take villalobos... what he is doing within the 4x4 framework is completely off the map... those old guys were abstract but in a completely different way. did you not rate his SMY remix? that is a deep piece of music imo

but also, not a million miles away are ppl like claro intelecto and the ai and modern love lot, james holden, petter, and border community, apparat and bpitch control, booka shade and get physical, all kompakt related things, who are all doing very exciting things within a broadly uniform framework. its not one big scene as such, but there are strong enough connections for it to be drawn together into a very cohesive and exciting mix

Yes- I agree on all your points el gato all of the artists you mention and labels are top notch in my book. I make mixes along those lines regularly.

I'll have to post one soon.


I put that the smy villalobos remix in a dubstep mix i made in march its on barefiles) I really like that one as well.
i find that his music grows on me with every listen.

elgato wrote:hmm i dunno man im not so much into the sleeparchive side of things, ive heard a little of their stuff and its interesting

research is a monster! sleeparchive is pretty hot.

elgato wrote:its not one big scene as such, but there are strong enough connections for it to be drawn together into a very cohesive and exciting mix

That makes sense. If you do record a mix I'd be really interested to hear it

Thanks for the link to the pitchfork article too. Makes for really interesting reading. This little paragraph confirms my suspicions re the vast quantities of music tagged as minimal..

pitchfork month in techno wrote:Which brings us to the current flowering, in which "minimal" might mean anything from Motor's flywheeling EBM to Villalobos' electro-acoustic astral journeys, from Mobilee's focused rave tools to the Wighnomy Brothers' entropic bubble and spark.

And this is an interesting explanation

pitchfork month in techno wrote:The problem, insofar as there is one, is that no terms have come along to supplant "minimal," and it's come to mean as little as "progressive," a genre misnomer if ever there was one.

UFO over easy wrote:

elgato wrote:its not one big scene as such, but there are strong enough connections for it to be drawn together into a very cohesive and exciting mix

That makes sense. If you do record a mix I'd be really interested to hear it

Thanks for the link to the pitchfork article too. Makes for really interesting reading. This little paragraph confirms my suspicions re the vast quantities of music tagged as minimal..

pitchfork month in techno wrote:Which brings us to the current flowering, in which "minimal" might mean anything from Motor's flywheeling EBM to Villalobos' electro-acoustic astral journeys, from Mobilee's focused rave tools to the Wighnomy Brothers' entropic bubble and spark.

And this is an interesting explanation

pitchfork month in techno wrote:The problem, insofar as there is one, is that no terms have come along to supplant "minimal," and it's come to mean as little as "progressive," a genre misnomer if ever there was one.

I second that sentiment. I would like to hear a mix el gato.

colm wrote:

jackquinox wrote:Hes also one of the most overatted djs in the wolrd in my opinion richie hawtin has been his crutch for a long time, fair play for playing some different stuff though its about time. Cause the last time i heard him he had the bass cut for around 30 - 40 minutes before someone pointed it out pure hilarity.

that's interesting. i've seen ritchie hawtin 3 times now and have never really enjoyed it after hearing soooo much hype. i thought ricardo smashed it on saturday.

You had to have caught him back in the day when he was still Plasticman. If you've only seen him past 1999 then you've really not caught a real Hawtin set.

UFO over easy wrote:

elgato wrote:its not one big scene as such, but there are strong enough connections for it to be drawn together into a very cohesive and exciting mix

That makes sense. If you do record a mix I'd be really interested to hear it

Thanks for the link to the pitchfork article too. Makes for really interesting reading. This little paragraph confirms my suspicions re the vast quantities of music tagged as minimal..

pitchfork month in techno wrote:Which brings us to the current flowering, in which "minimal" might mean anything from Motor's flywheeling EBM to Villalobos' electro-acoustic astral journeys, from Mobilee's focused rave tools to the Wighnomy Brothers' entropic bubble and spark.

And this is an interesting explanation

pitchfork month in techno wrote:The problem, insofar as there is one, is that no terms have come along to supplant "minimal," and it's come to mean as little as "progressive," a genre misnomer if ever there was one.

To me minimal is the sound pioneered by early Detroit Techno producers such as Jeff Mills and Robert Hood. Soon there after Carl Craig opened up the Detroit Berlin connection. Hawtin caught on to this and since then the sound has spread to Berlin and culminated in a few labels. Of course there also other labels throughout the world that draw inspiration from labels like Minus and can also be considered to be part of the Minimal umbrella.

eventualdecline wrote:

colm wrote:

jackquinox wrote:Hes also one of the most overatted djs in the wolrd in my opinion richie hawtin has been his crutch for a long time, fair play for playing some different stuff though its about time. Cause the last time i heard him he had the bass cut for around 30 - 40 minutes before someone pointed it out pure hilarity.

that's interesting. i've seen ritchie hawtin 3 times now and have never really enjoyed it after hearing soooo much hype. i thought ricardo smashed it on saturday.

You had to have caught him back in the day when he was still Plasticman. If you've only seen him past 1999 then you've really not caught a real Hawtin set.

Amen to that hawtin used to rip places apart just check the decks efx and 909 cd for a quality mix

jackquinox wrote:Amen to that hawtin used to rip places apart just check the decks efx and 909 cd for a quality mix

Yeah definately, I grew up Detroit and was fortunate to have caught some amazing sets/parties.

jackquinox wrote:Andy Stott

http://www.boomkat.com/item.cfm?id=22230

This is great stuff. Thanks for bringing it up!

djgyn wrote:

jackquinox wrote:Andy Stott

http://www.boomkat.com/item.cfm?id=22230

This is great stuff. Thanks for bringing it up!

http://www.juno.co.uk/search.php?q=andy ... column=all

still avaliable at juno dont know if they ship overseas though

i'll get on the case with the mix ive been meaning to do for an age

ive got a cd i recorded b2b with a mate a little while ago, its pretty shoddy mixing in parts and is unplanned so doesnt have the best flow, but i'll put it up when i get access to a computer with fast internet. only thing is i fear using that as an introduction, as its the kind of music which really benefits from intelligent set programming, and also its more of the jacking party-ish vibe, rather than deeper stuff which might be more suited...

but if ppl want it then ill put it up

I can't believe I didn't think of it before, but I just remembered kode 9 did that wicked vip mix of kingstown which sounds like skewed click house at 140 bpm - absolutely sick

It's on the end of the fwd>> podcast and I think its on his myspace too. Used to be anyhow.

elgato wrote:i'll get on the case with the mix ive been meaning to do for an age

ive got a cd i recorded b2b with a mate a little while ago, its pretty shoddy mixing in parts and is unplanned so doesnt have the best flow, but i'll put it up when i get access to a computer with fast internet. only thing is i fear using that as an introduction, as its the kind of music which really benefits from intelligent set programming, and also its more of the jacking party-ish vibe, rather than deeper stuff which might be more suited...

but if ppl want it then ill put it up

Yeah mon
post it in the other music section of the site.

i am thinking of building one and putting it up as well.

kingstown vip is so heavy, im gutted that it looks like its going to be consigned to the archives

the high hats on that tune are unreal

Wicked that he played left leg out.

Minimal has a much wider definition than what was known as minimal in the 90s - stuff like sleeparchive is actually a lot closer to that sound, whereas stuff on Kompakt, Boka Shade, all the Cadenza stuff is a world away. Its a broad church and there are some wicked tunes around.

jesse somfay (who did a brilliant album on traum, "we breathe the stars through each other") has been doing some deeeeeeep shit lately. highly recommend a listen. start with "for one brief moment, i was there" (off the aforementioned album). sounds like something that could fit in with burial's stuff...if you could mix it...

totally called this (Ricardo playing Left Leg Out). was obviously going to happen -- it's 4/4, got those interlocking polyrhythms, sounds totally fucked.