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nowaysj wrote:My wife and I recently did 23andme

Is this a new sex move??

nowaysj wrote:

Genevieve wrote:Non-coercively

Haha, your children will test your mettle. They are going to push you to places you never wanted to go.

I have a great relationship with my daughter, she is subtle, musical, hilarious and honestly brilliant. I'm not just being proud papa. She is my favorite person to hang out with. Buuuuut fuck, she will fight me at times. More than once have I found myself pounding my fist on the table, and screaming, "JUST DO WHAT I SAID!"

I'm a cross between a teddy bear, a downy feather and a ray of sunshine, but she can turn me into a cross between Hitler, Stalin, Mao, and Bush.

Your kids will test you Gene. So much so, you should get to it right now, so you can cut the bullshit out of your life, and your mind.

Yeah, I've decided for myself that I'm only gonna adopt when I'm as grounded and leveled as I can be, because atm I still have a terrible temper. Not saying you're not leveled, but I know it'll be challenging like fuck to be able to raise a kid the way I'd have in mind. I'm sure it'll be the most challenging thing I'll ever do (but also most rewarding).

The fact that you let her argue with you a lot is good, though. I remember reading kids who are frequently challenged by their kids grow up being more individualistic and less prone to going along with the majority.

nowaysj wrote:But then I think about my daughter. She is like Eve. The past will begin with her. Every minute detail of her life will be recorded. Her descendants will be able to go back and actually watch her existence, they can know her and the world she lived in. And they'll so wonder about her grandparents, what it was like in an analog world.

Yeah this is a pretty strange aspect of the latest generation - so much of their lives are being recorded. I know this has gone on before with home videos and what have you, but this is really the generation where it happens as standard. Mmmental!!

As for our great-great-grandmothers, yes we can never know what it was like to be alive then, we can only imagine. But we imagine with our present day minds/prejudices/concepts so, imo, aren't really able to judge the wrongdoings of people from back then.
I knew my great grandmother. She was in a wheelchair as long as I knew her and died at 93 - one of the hardest people i've ever met. She use to think that my cousins and I got away with absolute murder when really we were just a bit louder than she would have liked. But in comparison to when she was born where infant mortality was still high, it was common to see men mutilated from war walking the street and hot running water was a fantasy, yeah, we must've seemed spoiled as fuck!

KIDS THESE DAYS DON'T KNOW THEY'RE BORN!

Electric_Head wrote:

ultraspatial wrote:

Electric_Head wrote:I never played any kind of sport with him, never went fishing, etc.

me neither, but then again i never really wanted to. and i don't plan on doing it with my kid(s). always thought super involved parents are a bit annoying (at least from the kid's perspective)

obvs a lot can/will change by the time i'll have one, not saying no, but i really can't picture myself any different

There's involved and there's controlling.
I don't force anything on my son.
He wants to participate with me in anyway possible.
Our relationship is rock solid and I wouldn't have it any other way.

If you have the sort of relationship with your kid that I have with my son you will understand.

Yesterday we took the dogs for a walk to the corner shop to buy a packet of chips.
It was a beautiful day and we took a slow 20 minute walk through my beautiful neighborhood chatting shit about everything.
It was great for both of us.

I don't ever remember having a single decent conversation with my dad.
My dad and I have nothing in common now.
We battle to converse.

my conversations with my parents are the most empty and meaningless ones. last time i visited, my girlfriend spent more time talking to them than i did

and i didn't mean controlling, more like annoying overly involved and attached. like you're not ever going to be the kid's friend, you're the parent. there should be a bit of distance there. (not aimed at you btw)
dunno, maybe i'm the asshole in this. i don't have the greatest relationship with my parents, but i don't think i would change something if i could tbh

PinUp wrote:

nowaysj wrote:My wife and I recently did 23andme

Is this a new sex move??

Unfortunately, no.

https://www.23andme.com/

Genevieve wrote:Yeah, I've decided for myself that I'm only gonna adopt

Personal, but is this political, medical or infertility? Adoption is awesome. But please, please, if you can, also make a copy of yourself. I absolutely PROMISE you that a lot of thought/behavior is genetic. One of the reasons I feel it necessary to stay alive is to help my daughter confront aspects of her genetic heritage that I have intimate knowledge of. Things I've only figured out after struggling for 30+ years. I am nipping that shit in the bud. I feel like I am the only person who can help her because of our similarity in these regards.

We are well deep into cliche territory here, but I've learned so much about myself through seeing myself in her, and confronting it. I've developed compassion for myself, as strange as that sounds, through loving her unconditionally.

There are like two events in my life: I was born, and then I had her. Absolutely the single most profound, transformative experience of my life. I was a shit when I was younger, but I wish I had her sooner. I feel like I wasted a lot of my life, uselessly pursuing pleasure and career.

I had her when I was 31, I wish it was 25.

wub wrote:

Electric_Head wrote:

wub wrote:

nowaysj wrote:

Laszlo wrote:(and not blaming ourselves to harshly when we realise that's exactly what we've done).

The circle always strives to be more than the center.

And a round table never has an empty seat.

Unless you leave an empty seat?

Oh, it was a joke.
No wonder I missed it.
Bad joke was bad.

nowaysj wrote:

Genevieve wrote:Yeah, I've decided for myself that I'm only gonna adopt

Personal, but is this political, medical or infertility? Adoption is awesome. But please, please, if you can, also make a copy of yourself. I absolutely PROMISE you that a lot of thought/behavior is genetic. One of the reasons I feel it necessary to stay alive is to help my daughter confront aspects of her genetic heritage that I have intimate knowledge of. Things I've only figured out after struggling for 30+ years. I am nipping that shit in the bud. I feel like I am the only person who can help her because of our similarity in these regards.

We are well deep into cliche territory here, but I've learned so much about myself through seeing myself in her, and confronting it. I've developed compassion for myself, as strange as that sounds, through loving her unconditionally.

There are like two events in my life: I was born, and then I had her. Absolutely the single most profound, transformative experience of my life. I was a shit when I was younger, but I wish I had her sooner. I feel like I wasted a lot of my life, uselessly pursuing pleasure and career.

I had her when I was 31, I wish it was 25.

I really want a child, i feel i've done everything i want to do in my youth.

Now just to find a girl i like enough to have one and get a job to be able to support it haha.

Johnlenham wrote: . Jo O id agree with, he did play some VIP or a song that uses the WHOOOM bit from the song with a stupid name that sounded good.

BRTHDTT vip? o: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZpuJ5sot9A

Johnlenham wrote:Four Tet smashed the place up though, everyone I brought with me said they enjoyed his set the most. Wenu wenu and Skeng in the same set

only caught skeng , didnt spend a lot of time there. sounded pretty good but i couldnt turn down the people who would be playin garage n grime :d. did he play Spark it by Wen as well or am i imagining it? oh ye did u hear that new burial colab too?

Johnlenham wrote:Was pretty glad to get through the super strict security unscathed. Even the Staff were ok. Friend did get a toilet door kicked down on him while he was going for a piss though hahaha

yea the security were fairly polite, especially compared to last year. although this year i got the double drug dog treatment at the entrance :s clearly the drug dogs dont work at all though haha. i did get a severe buttspanking from about 5 security guards cos i leaned over the barrier at the front of room 2 to steal some water bottles. but then they explained that i could just ask one of them for water and i was like "oh safe thx can i have some water". and then they gave me free water

i guess he got piss raided cs there was loads of chumps doing drugs in the toilets. they annoyed me. i waited to poop for ,like 20 minutes behind a queue of ppl coming out with crusty lookin noses. ):<

m8son wrote:Now just to find a girl i like enough to have one and get a job to be able to support it haha.

Neither are too easy to do

haha yeah definitely not

nowaysj wrote:

Genevieve wrote:Yeah, I've decided for myself that I'm only gonna adopt

Personal, but is this political, medical or infertility? Adoption is awesome. But please, please, if you can, also make a copy of yourself. I absolutely PROMISE you that a lot of thought/behavior is genetic. One of the reasons I feel it necessary to stay alive is to help my daughter confront aspects of her genetic heritage that I have intimate knowledge of. Things I've only figured out after struggling for 30+ years. I am nipping that shit in the bud. I feel like I am the only person who can help her because of our similarity in these regards.

We are well deep into cliche territory here, but I've learned so much about myself through seeing myself in her, and confronting it. I've developed compassion for myself, as strange as that sounds, through loving her unconditionally.

There are like two events in my life: I was born, and then I had her. Absolutely the single most profound, transformative experience of my life. I was a shit when I was younger, but I wish I had her sooner. I feel like I wasted a lot of my life, uselessly pursuing pleasure and career.

I had her when I was 31, I wish it was 25.

Well, it's either adopt 1 child and have a biological one or adopt 2. To me it's a matter of there being so many unloved children without a home already that'd be unfair to them to not put a roof over their heads. I definitely know where you're coming from but I guess I still have time left to consider how much more important that is to me than my reason to adopt! Things are subject to change with me anyway.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 20524.html

Drunken French teenagers abduct a circus llama and take him on a tram ride



The teens were arrested for the escapades but charges were dropped after images of their night out went viral

A group of five French teenagers have been arrested after drunkenly stealing a circus llama named Serge and taking on him on a tour of Bordeaux via the city’s tram system.

The animal was abducted by the youths early on Thursday morning after they wandered into a closed-down circus. The quintet had recently exited a club in Bordeaux, a city renowned as the country’s wine capital.

“We went in and played with the animals,” one of the five, named Mathieu, told BFM TV. “We ended up taking a llama with us.”

The group had originally set their hearts on taking a zebra home, but after the beast proved too stubborn they happily settled for the more amenable Serge.

“It walked with us like a good dog would have,” said Mathieu.

Genevieve wrote:Not saying you're not leveled, but I know it'll be challenging like fuck to be able to raise a kid the way I'd have in mind.

I mean no offence to you Gene, but since I read this, I can't help but think you're planning on raising some anti-government super-human with like, 5% body fat.

garethom wrote:

Genevieve wrote:Not saying you're not leveled, but I know it'll be challenging like fuck to be able to raise a kid the way I'd have in mind.

I mean no offence to you Gene, but since I read this, I can't help but think you're planning on raising some anti-government super-human with like, 5% body fat.

garethom wrote:

Genevieve wrote:Not saying you're not leveled, but I know it'll be challenging like fuck to be able to raise a kid the way I'd have in mind.

I mean no offence to you Gene, but since I read this, I can't help but think you're planning on raising some anti-government super-human with like, 5% body fat.

HAHAHA.

Shut up m8. I don't want child services to know about this.

Just gonna be Gene and this kid living in the forest, not interacting with society in case they find his 2 tonne stash of semtex and gold.

I may still try to land some local government job and try to sabotage the whole institution from within.

wub wrote: