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FINISHED MY LAST EXAM

Waiting for class to end and go home to eat and sleep.

garethom wrote:

magma wrote:The Stephanie Event: http://www.esquire.com/features/patient-zero-1213

Long and as-yet unresolved story, but steeped in hope. Good read.

I have a big worry about "curing cancer". A lot of people die from cancer. Everybody has to die. It worries me what's gonna happen when a few million people that were "meant" to die suddenly don't.

They'll almost certainly die of something else, like an organ giving up when they're a more "ripe" age.

I don't think curing cancers in 85 year olds is necessarily the main driver for this, it's the otherwise healthy adults being deprived of normal life spans who'll benefit from a cure to cancer. You could've made the same arguments about vaccinating kids against measles and polio a century ago, but we all managed to deal with a 98% drop in infant mortality in under 100 years in our country without too much fuss.

I know. I'm not saying I have the answers, just saying it's something I worry about. I get that people will benefit from a cure to cancer, it's just that people have to die, even those taken in the prime of their lives. It's the natural order of things I guess. As I said, I don't think at all that I have any answers here, just thinking out loud.

We've dealt with a rise in population up to now without too much fuss, it's just what do we do when it hits the point that you can no longer deal with a bigger rise.

International 2 child policy imo

garethom wrote:I know. I'm not saying I have the answers, just saying it's something I worry about. I get that people will benefit from a cure to cancer, it's just that people have to die, even those taken in the prime of their lives. It's the natural order of things I guess. As I said, I don't think at all that I have any answers here, just thinking out loud.

We've dealt with a rise in population up to now without too much fuss, it's just what do we do when it hits the point that you can no longer deal with a bigger rise.

Not snarking, just thinking aloud as well... strikes me that almost every time throughout our history that we've made major impacts on mortality/population that people have warned "This time we'll breach the threshold..." and it never happens, just like the End alluded to on all those placards has never actually been Nigh.

Get birth rates down to just over 2 children per couple and the point becomes pretty much moot anyway; it seems more "humane" to avoid creating too much life in the first place rather than deny existing lives any and all the treatments we can imagine.

magma wrote:

garethom wrote:I know. I'm not saying I have the answers, just saying it's something I worry about. I get that people will benefit from a cure to cancer, it's just that people have to die, even those taken in the prime of their lives. It's the natural order of things I guess. As I said, I don't think at all that I have any answers here, just thinking out loud.

We've dealt with a rise in population up to now without too much fuss, it's just what do we do when it hits the point that you can no longer deal with a bigger rise.

Not snarking, just thinking aloud as well... strikes me that almost every time throughout our history that we've made major impacts on mortality/population that people have warned "This time we'll breach the threshold..." and it never happens, just like the End alluded to on all those placards has never actually been Nigh.

Get birth rates down to just over 2 children per couple and the point becomes pretty much moot anyway; it seems more "humane" to avoid creating too much life in the first place rather than deny existing lives any and all the treatments we can imagine.

Yeah, that's defo the solution, it's just that not everybody is as smart as your average ninja are they? I remember doing loads about population at A-Level Geography (so naturally I'm an expert) and we were looking at case studies where central African countries were having these drives to try and convince people that 9 of their 10 children were no longer going to die in infancy, so please, could you just try having maybe 2 or 3? And people just didn't buy it, and they continued having more and more kids, and it's a major issue now.

People are the same worldwide. Get a politician on TV and get them to say "Yo! You may have noticed, but over the last 10 years, we've got an extra 10 million people we weren't expecting to have, can you chill on the kids for now" and it'll be ignored.

garethom wrote:

magma wrote:

garethom wrote:I know. I'm not saying I have the answers, just saying it's something I worry about. I get that people will benefit from a cure to cancer, it's just that people have to die, even those taken in the prime of their lives. It's the natural order of things I guess. As I said, I don't think at all that I have any answers here, just thinking out loud.

We've dealt with a rise in population up to now without too much fuss, it's just what do we do when it hits the point that you can no longer deal with a bigger rise.

Not snarking, just thinking aloud as well... strikes me that almost every time throughout our history that we've made major impacts on mortality/population that people have warned "This time we'll breach the threshold..." and it never happens, just like the End alluded to on all those placards has never actually been Nigh.

Get birth rates down to just over 2 children per couple and the point becomes pretty much moot anyway; it seems more "humane" to avoid creating too much life in the first place rather than deny existing lives any and all the treatments we can imagine.

Yeah, that's defo the solution, it's just that not everybody is as smart as your average ninja are they? I remember doing loads about population at A-Level Geography (so naturally I'm an expert) and we were looking at case studies where central African countries were having these drives to try and convince people that 9 of their 10 children were no longer going to die in infancy, so please, could you just try having maybe 2 or 3? And people just didn't buy it, and they continued having more and more kids, and it's a major issue now.

People are the same worldwide. Get a politician on TV and get them to say "Yo! You may have noticed, but over the last 10 years, we've got an extra 10 million people we weren't expecting to have, can you chill on the kids for now" and it'll be ignored.

I guess reaction to education will be different the world over, but interestingly, taking India and Bangladesh as particular examples, the "magic bullet", if one exists, seems to be female education - even enacting "2 child maximum" laws doesn't seem as effective as simply teaching girls how things work and giving them the power to decide for themselves. The traditional, "received" viewpoint goes "If we have more kids, more will survive and we'll have more people to help out and more people to look after us in our old age.", but the reality in a modern economy is simply more mouths to feed and more attention required than either of the parents can manage - once women are given enough education to grasp (for want of a better phrase) 'home economics' and given control over their own body (freedom of access to birth control), they seem to naturally have far less kids... and the kids they do have survive better.

http://www.eubios.info/EJ124/ej124i.htm

Britain's birth rate was 1.98 per woman a couple of years ago (1.89 for the US), so apart from all the filthy immigints coming in to tek arrr jabs we're pretty well poised to cure the shit out of cancer.

southstar wrote:International 2 child policy imo

Can of religious ideology covered worms there mate.

we should ban having children and let everyone alive die out and stop this pointless species

i reckon we should only let really tall people fuck

so after like 50 years everyone is massive

and feed them on steroids

create a breed of future bros

Agent 47 wrote:i reckon we should only let really tall people fuck

so after like 50 years everyone is massive

and feed them on steroids

create a breed of future bros

I second this


agent talking sense

half-day today and tomorrow

On my phone the mason avatar looks more like Pete Doherty

looool i am well into skag tbh

i saw some twat trying to dress like him at sainsburys the other day, had the stupid little hat and everything

Since I have some time off I'm going to dig deep into grime and try to buy a fair bit.

i knew you guys were neo-sizans.

btw the word sizan cracks me up. not sure why but it just looks hilarious.

yes i mean sizan, not nazi

Agent 47 wrote:i reckon we should only let really tall people fuck

so after like 50 years everyone is massive

and feed them on steroids

create a breed of future bros

i think they should let midgets fuck too. no normal size people

fuck you guys, you are on some height izan shit