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Sounds & Sphynx are big big tunes

Yeah, precisely. I'm all for it (within limits obvs). I'd go as far as to say that I LIKE this EP, just not enough at this moment to part with £6 or whatever for it, as I mentioned, I've got stuff that fills the need.

And I called it an homage because that's what it is IMO. Not a straight rip off or copy, it's bres taking from what influenced them and putting in a new context for 2k13.

Feel like I've been a bit misunderstood here might be my fault, but I am defo pro-Etch and have been since that Red Green Blue release and I'm defo not complaining about anything either. As I've said elsewhere in this thread, this sort of sound is the most exciting stuff linked to dubstep I've heard since I first heard el-b and horsepower properly.

Guess my point is, I like the ep, but if I'm drawing for a hardcore track, or a dark garage track, there's plenty on my shelves I can reach for already. I know Etch makes more unique sounds, but I'm guessing that's not the point of an EP called Old School Methods, is it? I'll be sure to pick up his next release, hopefully on Keysound too.

Also, quick note, big up to J-One for getting on vinyl and on keysound on "Sounds".

dididub wrote:
tbh im not gonna lie, i see garethoms point, he's saying

garethom wrote:I have stuff from the genres he's working at that I think is better already.

he's not arguing against "homaging"

Never said he was.

Harkat wrote:Too much homaging with the tunes for sure. People overdo it with the old rave samples. You can't have "SPREAD OUT AN SCATTAH" and the jungle/garage beep sound and the jungle warfare rewind noise in every tune. Especially when a lot of the tunes are good enough to stand up without relying on references to older tunes in that way.

This guy was.

I think garethom's coming at it from a completely fair angle.

At the end of the day...

Lye Form wrote:im pro Etch cus

If you can look past any samples which are simply nodding to an era and a movement, and see what the lad does with his breaks, rhythms, structures....

Yeah man has got a sick sense of rhythm, no sluggish beats

oh yh sorry sam i get you now

If there's any confusion, I'm pro Etch too. A few pages ago I said I bought his Rise EP and it's sick. Didn't mean to target the man for using the "scattah" sample or anything. Lots of my favorite music is ruff, darkside-but-not-too-techy jungle like No U Turn, "Black"-era DJ SS, Source Direct and so on, so I'm happy for more of those vibes.

I guess there just comes a point, as with some underground hip hop artists and stuff where music can get overly referential to where it feels like a "remember this?" first and a sick new tune second.

Harkat wrote: I guess there just comes a point, as with some underground hip hop artists and stuff where music can get overly referential to where it feels like a "remember this?" first and a sick new tune second.

Yep, fair point.

Harkat wrote:Source Direct

Never attempt to associate the Source with 5 panel caps ever again. That is an order.

TGDavies wrote:

dididub wrote:

TGDavies wrote:Tech-House revivalism that seems to be the only alternative these days.

nah steady on m8 there's loads going on

Yeah I overstepped there, but I struggle to find any scene (rather than the odd individual producer) doing anything more interesting.

Well, I'd say the shit night slugs and all their guys are doing is more interesting, to me that is. And there is techno out there that isnt just tech house lol

skimpi wrote:night slugs

speaking of which


this set almost made me give up music

Badman

Seriously feelin this tune


I think he was born in UK but lives in Toronto, or the other way around... dont remember but he got a dope flow either way.

ActionJesus wrote:Seriously feelin this tune


I think he was born in UK but lives in Toronto, or the other way around... dont remember but he got a dope flow either way.

Pls pls pls can we have a grime thread in general? With mc stuff as well as instrumentals?

there are like 20 grime threads

soulkids wrote:there are like 20 grime threads

ah sorry

Link pls?

Then why a tre mission tracks being posted here

http://www.dubstepforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=169477

this ones the most active one

ugh what a princess.
that Tre Mission tune is super breaky, reminded me a bit of Etch is all, not to mention theres already a bunch of grime tunes posted here.

whatever.


BIG tune by Nativ
Soundcloud
Getting released late this year.

ActionJesus wrote:ugh what a princess.
that Tre Mission tune is super breaky, reminded me a bit of Etch is all, not to mention theres already a bunch of grime tunes posted here.

whatever.


BIG tune by Nativ
Soundcloud
Getting released late this year.

Haha wasn't having a go at you m8