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deadly habit wrote:np maybe if i can recover my sql database and get some hosting i can post back up my production blog and the dsf sampleswap which had those docs and such

I would be well up for seeing what you post.

spent a few hours on some layered sounds, then decided to throw some beats in to see how it would sound, then took a break while looking through my samples folder and....ya, don't mind those

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all the bass sounds in this are reeses.
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Made an attempt to nail down a sort of heavy neuro reese to go with a 100 bpm glitch hop vibe, it's the tune in my sig if anyone wants to listen. Would love some comments on how it turned out

Alright so i basically registered just to get some reese going! I've been producing for about 1 and a half year, extremely active though, and I'm now attempting to make some sort of neurohop / glitchhop tune. Got the drums and everything down, but I am still experimenting with reese... so here we go...

TeRRo wrote:Made an attempt to nail down a sort of heavy neuro reese to go with a 100 bpm glitch hop vibe, it's the tune in my sig if anyone wants to listen. Would love some comments on how it turned out

sounds awesome, maybe an octave higher and one single OSC one octave lower might sound nicer, can barely hear those harmonics in that reese

I've read through almost everything in this thread, and read about flangers and long FX chains and distortion... but somehow i still don't get how people get their reese to "move" properly, like this one:

jbcrazy wrote:Just working on my Reese work. Inspirational and very helpful thread. Those SPOR clips... are effin insane, especially that Stompbox remix. Something most of us would shoot for. Here's my attempt at a Reese. Not bad for like someone who was clueless not too long ago. Used Absynth as my synth.

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In terms of resampling I have done nothin. I think this can get nastier if I resample... That's the next step I'd assume?

I am sure Nosia and Spor resample the hell out of their sounds.

I'm not talking about the sort of vocal sound, it seems to be some sort of formant filter on an extra send, i just want to get my reese moving like the typical neuro-reese sounds.

Also, some tips that MIGHT help, that i thought of but didn't execute (yet):
- There is a noisia DnB presets folder in Albino3, and there are some reese based presets in there, might want to investigate that
- Has anyone tried layering reeses this way:
- basic saw based reese with some fixed / automated notches + other reeses based on square / luna-based in massive that fill those notches, then bounce that and put some heavy FX chain and notches on it. Result? A reese that changes characteristics as the notch moves

EDIT: Inb4 someone says LP / HP / notch filter after the FX chain. I'm talking about the movement that happens BEFORE those in some of the reeses in this thread.

Detuning, notches early on in the fx chain, flangers, chorus, modulate everything really. Oh, and pitch bends of course!

what's this? that deadly habit guy spent about 40 mins just explaining reeses to close up his 5 part tutorial on modulation for massivesynth.com ?
hmmm might wanna keep my eyes out for that getting uploaded in the near future

awesomeeeeee

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so this is what i got now. but i'm not really satisfied with it. Neurohop / glitchhop reeses sound way cleaner than this, and it's not because of the distortion. Any ideas? Maybe a different base synth? But how?

EDIT: forgot to say thanks to blinkesko for summing up the basic idea of the FX chain and can't wait for that tutorial! I can never get enough of tutorials on topics that i don't understand

how do KURSA and others make this really weird, brutal reese (is this even a reese?)

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Reversed: It sounds cool, how much FX/modulation did you put on it? If you want a clean/wet sound you could try experimenting with chorus, flanger, phaser, reverb and similar fx. Maybe add some filters to make it more subtle.

TeRRo wrote:Reversed: It sounds cool, how much FX/modulation did you put on it? If you want a clean/wet sound you could try experimenting with chorus, flanger, phaser, reverb and similar fx. Maybe add some filters to make it more subtle.

after EQing it from the output of albino i sent it to two states with one pitched up about 25 cents and the other pitched down about 20 cents then sent it to another channel with flanger, EQ, camelphat, and chorus (in that order) then compressed it and sent to output.

Yeah i should try getting rid of the distortion, but i think there is something more basic to this neurohop sort of bass, i think it's based on squares and works a bit differently, have to experiment more and find out.

please never use the word neurohop again. that aside, while detuning 2 instances of the same reese against eachother is a great technique doing that by such a large amount (25 cents) plus adding a flanger (which i'm guessing is really wet) is go to take you far away from that clean sound you're after. The reason some of those guys's reeses sound so clean i'd imagine is because they're not layered wet with so many effects that the sound becomes unrecognizable. for instance that kursa tune just sounds like a reese with a comb filter on it, no need to instantly put distortion/phaser/flanger/chorus etc on their if that isn't the sound you're going for

yea with reese processing, less is more. the key is adding subtle amounts of effects along the way as when they get added together as a chain with all the movement it can become extreme if you go overboard

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what's this? that deadly habit guy spent about 40 mins just explaining reeses to close up his 5 part tutorial on modulation for massivesynth.com ?
hmmm might wanna keep my eyes out for that getting uploaded in the near future

That'll be a good watch for sure.
If not just for Deadly's voice.

Huts wrote:please never use the word neurohop again. that aside, while detuning 2 instances of the same reese against eachother is a great technique doing that by such a large amount (25 cents) plus adding a flanger (which i'm guessing is really wet) is go to take you far away from that clean sound you're after. The reason some of those guys's reeses sound so clean i'd imagine is because they're not layered wet with so many effects that the sound becomes unrecognizable. for instance that kursa tune just sounds like a reese with a comb filter on it, no need to instantly put distortion/phaser/flanger/chorus etc on their if that isn't the sound you're going for

What's wrong with the word? Do you see it like one of those annoying terms like "Brostep" and "Lovestep"? I think the term neurohop has an actual technical aspect in it which is why it actually makes sense, other than those stupid abominations of the word Dubstep.
Yeah i realized that the detuning and flanger added up by an awful lot, but removing either of both destroyed the effect, at least it sounded to me like it did. I was thinking about comb filtering too, but i just can't figure out a proper Q for it, it either sounds overfiltered or too dry, i can never get it right.

started over with a different base synth, used sytrus this time (it has a really nice clean saw wave!) tiny bit of chorus in sytrus
the difference is in the filtering; i used 2 automated double notches, one sweeps from ~420Hz (about where that very precious C harmonic lays) to the top and back down, while the other double notch does the exact opposite. then some light distortion and resample the whole thing, now automating the double notch with the lane i used on the previous attempt. sounds way more like what i want it to sound like! Any ideas for improvement?

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The FX chain is still long but as deadly habit said, i tried using rather subtle effects and adding them up, worked better imo.

Just a tip, if you dont want the flanger/chorus effect to take over the high end, make the dry/ wet be about 60/40 or 70/30. I find it to be nicer, and the effect is less prominent, but still there.
Btw, here's a lil preview of a track I'm working on, with a nice little reese.
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hehe, I dunno what you peeps feel about flo rida

blinkesko wrote:Just a tip, if you dont want the flanger/chorus effect to take over the high end, make the dry/ wet be about 60/40 or 70/30. I find it to be nicer, and the effect is less prominent, but still there.
Btw, here's a lil preview of a track I'm working on, with a nice little reese.
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hehe, I dunno what you peeps feel about flo rida

Crispy as hell! i like it! You could also send the sound to 2 separate sends with one lowpassed and flanger / chorus and one highpassed without the flanger / chorus

fuck phasers, flangers are where it's at
also automating the volumes of the different frequency bands

mebbe ill post something tonight, havent done reeses for like a year or so...