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Re: The Ableton Q&A Thread

Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 8:36 pm
by DZA
Random problem, whenever i import midi the vst on that midi track resets itself to another preset

Anyone know what the fucks going on ?

Re: The Ableton Q&A Thread

Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 8:48 pm
by contakt321
DZA wrote:Random problem, whenever i import midi the vst on that midi track resets itself to another preset

Anyone know what the fucks going on ?
Any VST or a certain one?

Re: The Ableton Q&A Thread

Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 8:48 pm
by DZA
Does it with any

Re: The Ableton Q&A Thread

Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 8:53 pm
by contakt321
Help me understand:

Are you:
1. Importing midi by importing a midi file from the web or a sample/midi pack?
2. Importing midi from another project?
3. Dragging a midi clip from another instrument w/in your project?

Re: The Ableton Q&A Thread

Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 8:57 pm
by wayoftheworld
@ Dark Reign......both methods of resampling are effective and serve a purpose, anything goes with resampling

for basslines, i just chuck a gritty sounding waveform into simpler and dial it to my liking, then duplicate the track 3 or 4 times and mess with the patch and arrangement of each one, so you're left with 4 different sounding basses. at this point you can resample just one individual patch, say, if you want to record some modulation to create movement in the bass, just right click and select "simpler --------> sampler" to have access to sampler's badass modulartability, or you can just resample the 4 different sounding basses playing off of each other and interacting musically once you've got them arranged good.

from there, you could take your resampled bass audio and chop it up using 'slice to midi', you could take two different sounding basses (that otherwise sound good together) and set the crossfade assign of yr 1st bass to "A" and the second bass to "B" and resample crossfading between the two different sounds to get some sick morphing. hell, i've even resampled the output of dragging a midi note up and down with the mouse in the step sequencer on an arppegiated bleep to get some nice random sounding but harmonic glitchy bleeps like rustie 8)

Re: The Ableton Q&A Thread

Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 8:58 pm
by DZA
contakt321 wrote:Help me understand:

Are you:
1. Importing midi by importing a midi file from the web or a sample/midi pack?
2. Importing midi from another project?
3. Dragging a midi clip from another instrument w/in your project?
Importing midi from another project
Dragging a midi clip from another instrument w/in your project
And import midi files that ive made

Seen a similar problem on ableton forum

http://forum.ableton.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=38745

:cry:

Re: The Ableton Q&A Thread

Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 9:00 pm
by Dark Reign
wayoftheworld wrote:yeah man just whatever works for you. there's a lotta ways of working with resampling in live

for basslines, i just chuck a gritty sounding waveform into simpler and dial it to my liking, then duplicate the track 3 or 4 times and mess with the patch of each one, so you're left with 4 different sounding basses. at this point you can resample just the patch, say, if you want to record some modulation to create movement in the patch, just right click and select "simpler --------> sampler" to have access to sampler's badass modulartability, or you can just record the 4 different sounding basses playing off of each other and interacting musically once you've got them arranged. resample anything!

from there, you could take your resampled bass audio and chop it up using 'slice to midi', you could take two different sounding basses (that otherwise sound good together) and set the crossfade assign of yr 1st bass to "A" and the second bass to "B" and resample crossfading between the two different sounds to get some sick morphing. hell, i've even resampled the output of dragging a midi note up and down with the mouse in the step sequencer on an arppegiated bleep to get some nice random sounding but harmonic glitchy bleeps like rustie 8)
ya man theres so much you can do its crazy. Thanks for the tips again

Re: The Ableton Q&A Thread

Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 9:04 pm
by wayoftheworld
cheers

Re: The Ableton Q&A Thread

Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 11:31 pm
by contakt321
DZA wrote:
contakt321 wrote:Help me understand:

Are you:
1. Importing midi by importing a midi file from the web or a sample/midi pack?
2. Importing midi from another project?
3. Dragging a midi clip from another instrument w/in your project?
Importing midi from another project
Dragging a midi clip from another instrument w/in your project
And import midi files that ive made

:cry:
Ahhh...

I think that may have happened to me before.

My workaround. Create a new track (let's call it, "track 23"), now drag external midi clip from another project onto "track 23". Then, drag just that midi clip from "track 23" onto the track with you want with whatever VST. Last, delete "track 23"

Does that work? I think it be a weird issue w/ the way tracks are saved/imported from other projects.

Re: The Ableton Q&A Thread

Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 12:31 am
by DZA
Nah still does it
Tryed it with a game midi file i downloaded and does it with that aswell :(

Re: The Ableton Q&A Thread

Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 7:12 pm
by contakt321
DZA wrote:Nah still does it
Tryed it with a game midi file i downloaded and does it with that aswell :(
I would file a bug report, that would make me crazy

Re: The Ableton Q&A Thread

Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 7:23 pm
by ResetTheAtari
Probably not the best, but tried reinstalling?

Re: The Ableton Q&A Thread

Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 10:12 am
by Point Blank
Hi,

It's nice to see this post generating alot of interest. Ableton seems to be even more popular than i thought!
As i'm sure you'll all agree knowledge of both music and software will benefit all of us within our productions. And as there seems to be alot of questions in regards to Dubstep within Ableton i feel that there are alot of producers that might benefit even more with exstenvie knowledge of these areas. I hate it when producers just starting to make dubstep assume that its as simple as a half-time drum beat and a wobbly bass. I'm sure i'm not alone on this!

Thats why at Point Blank we have launched an online music course in Dubstep on Ableton. We cover all aspects from sound design to arrangement and mixdown. Have a look at out course brouchre for more in-depth information: http://www.pointblankonline.net/dubstep ... n-live.php

Also check our youtube tutorial on Dubstep at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-YGvu9lKmKw. I'm sure alot of you will find it very informative!

If you require any other information don't hesistate to PM me.

I wish you all luck within your productions!

Re: The Ableton Q&A Thread

Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 11:40 am
by ResetTheAtari
Appreciate the effort man, will check these as I'm still new to writing dubstep.

EDIT : Didn't realise you are charging megabux for this course! :roll: Good luck with that :lol:

Re: The Ableton Q&A Thread

Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 1:48 pm
by Point Blank
Sorry to hear that you think its an expensive course.

The course is designed to give you a thorough rundown of Dubstep with Ableton. You'll be taught all aspects of Dubstep & Ableton (see previous post with curriculm link) with an industry professional. This in essence means you'll be paying for the tutor's time and industry knowledge amongst course materials such as project files, video tutorials, audio sounds etc which i'm sure you'll agree is a key elements to learning: having someone who can spend time and effort to teach and push you to your highest standard with all the adaquate aid.

However, we do give opporutinies to gain free courses. We have an online music machine which users can make beats and remix tracks. If you recieve the highest ratings (people can vote online), you'll recieve a free online music course!

Have a look at http://mixer.pointblanklondon.com/

Re: The Ableton Q&A Thread

Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 8:07 pm
by Seda
In point blank's defense these courses are relatively cheap. :)

However are your "industry professionals" Ableton Certified Trainers?

If not I would recommend dubspot's 24 week program. This is an amazing program where you learn the ins and outs of every aspect of production with Ableton throughout a 24 week course. And if you were to look at the cost based on the trainers time, Dubspot is actually about $50 cheaper (if pointblank was a 24 week program as well at their current rates).

Based on your video I would say you are charging people to show them how to be creative with Ableton rather than teaching them how to use Ableton in order for them to be creative with Ableton on their own. I do not mean to bash your forum advertising methods but I don't like the idea of beginners paying for these lessons. :?

Re: The Ableton Q&A Thread

Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 8:22 pm
by ResetTheAtari
I just don't think these courses are worth it when there are literally thousands of free tutorials vids all over the internet.

Re: The Ableton Q&A Thread

Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 3:31 pm
by Point Blank
Hi there,

@Seda
Yes our tutors are Ableton certified trainers and successful artists/producers in their own right. Some of them having tracks released on Defected & Cr2 records. You can have a look at all our tutors in more depth at http://www.pointblankonline.net/about-p ... tutors.php. Not to mention that we have regular masterclasses at our London base which have welcomed guest speakers such as Annie Mac, Pete Tong and Skream.
In regards to the specific course, the video is only a small snippet of a wide scope of the course. We aim to teach our students the knowledge of using Ableton via a genre that they like (i.e. dubstep etc.). We beleieve in doing so, our students can learn how Ableton can work for their productions and to open their creative minds by expolring all elements of Ableton that might not be assosiated with Dubstep.
Please have a look at our brouchre. It will show you our course curriculum: http://www.pointblankonline.net/dubstep ... n-live.php.

@RestTheAtari
I understand where you're coming from. However, from personal expeiernece i find that free tutorials on the interent are very contradicting. For example, you could look up 4 different tutorials on compression. They would more likely be made by budding producers (not producers heavily involved in the industry) who will all say opposite things, more than not leaving you baffled!! At least with an experienced professional you are 100% sure they know what they are talking about.
Also, by watching these free videos i believe you are eventally going to hit that glass ceilling that will ristrict your productions from moving up into that next step. The knowledge of the next step is by professionals who have years experience and could help you push your productions into its most optimum form.

But thats just my feelings on the subject. Some of you will agree, some will disagree.

Re: The Ableton Q&A Thread

Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 1:46 am
by disco.infiltrator
Can anyone brief me on the external instrument capabilities of ableton? I can successfully record my synth into the computer using the midi ins/outs and audio in on my presonus audiobox, but for some reason it only records it into the left channel. I must have set it up wrong or something but I can't figure it out.

Thanks

Re: The Ableton Q&A Thread

Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 2:09 am
by contakt321
I have never used the External Instrument Device, I just create an audio channel and record (laziness)

I am guessing you need to go into preferences and make sure you have stereo enabled. Next, go to the I/O section in session view and choose your input and make sure you are getting a stereo signal