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how many lives does he have?

DiegoSapiens wrote:who cares...

You can't deny the moustache and wife beaters are a poor combo

yes he looks lame but like a thousand of good producers that looks like the shit that get stuck in the hair from my anus, he does good beats thats all that matters for me

just bought tickets to see ms dynamite tonight. 1st night out in london in a few months as well. lots of mates around and rolling deep so it should be a good night

Plus, Machinedrum is sick

RKM wrote:yeah i haven't listened to a great deal i'm sure i'm wrong, think it's the fast paced drums and pitched up samples that are making me think that though

That's probably because it doesn't have the 'weight' of breakbeats but generally is more about one shots. So there's more spacing.

or maybe cos it's shit

Is England menstruating or is it just bitch day all around?

m8son wrote:or maybe cos it's shit

What about this kind of thing

Soundcloud

yh thats nice, but sounds more like drum and bass to me than footwork

just cos somethings at 160bpm doesn't mean it's footwork imo

m8son wrote:just cos somethings at 160bpm doesn't mean it's footwork imo

Well there is very very little drum and bass at 160 last time i checked...

are you kidding? There used to be loads.

firstly i'm 90% sure thats bullshit

secondly, so if something has all the components of drum and bass but is at 160 is it not drum and bass? what if you slow down a drum and bass track to 160 is it no longer drum and bass?

Harkat wrote:are you kidding? There used to be loads.

Now the classification is any track at 80 bpm made before 2000 is known as "jungle"

I dont make the rules m8

dnb is rarely below 170, jungle would be.
The point still stands about just changing the tempo but following that logic, there'd be no unique distinction relating to dubstep as a genre either imo.
It is unfortunatly about the tempo and not much else.

m8son wrote:firstly i'm 90% sure thats bullshit

secondly, so if something has all the components of drum and bass but is at 160 is it not drum and bass? what if you slow down a drum and bass track to 160 is it no longer drum and bass?

Heres the problem... ghetto house producers in the 90s that began to make juke, they didnt listen to drum and bass

Its covergent evolution

what's that got to do with anything, i'm sure coleco has heard drum and bass before

i'm just saying that specific tune sounds like drum and bass not juke as a whole

Well its the attitude

Obviously if an artist has, through their career, been heavily influenced by footwork music & they make a tune that deviates from the normal breakbeat pattern at 80 bpm its going to be labeled as juke because drum and bass is the established "norm"