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Turkey have been caught nursing ISIS leaders too, complicated stuff, hard to find out what's really happening

@hubb it was a bit tongue in cheek but you don't think the regional powers should solve this problem? and yeah Saudi is Sunni and Iran is Shia and they're both sort of the leading Sunni and Shia counties in the region. Would do a world of good for the Middle East in general if they worked together on something, as that's pretty much the root of all these problems (that in addition to the evil George bushes of course). though obviously it wouldn't happen right now.

nobody wrote:Turkey have been caught nursing ISIS leaders too, complicated stuff, hard to find out what's really happening

if that's true then it's probably because they want ISIS to keep fighting the PKK so they don't have to lol

complex political shit, we only hear 1/3 of it unfortunately

have no fear, russel brand is here to enlighten us

posturing 101

Saudi Arabia, Turkey (as well as Israel and the US) are all funding and arming ISIS

yeh just listne to RUssels wisdom m8

cant find ma fucking vape cig thing and i've been smoking like a fiend recently

and was supposed to be playing a party in a week, but some family down the street longed them out hard and they cancelled it and they still emailled the council and my mates got this from the 'council community liason officer'

'Dear Students

The University has been informed by Bristol City Council that you are intending to hold a party on the 14th of March. It has been reported that 150 tickets have been sold and there will be alcohol and music.

To hold an event such as this you require a Temporary Events Notice link below - and this is being investigated by an officer of the City Council.'

loool wat

RKM wrote:cant find ma fucking vape cig thing and i've been smoking like a fiend recently

you can go without mate, think of it is as a little challenge for yourself, just avoid booze for a bit and you probs wont even crave the nicotine

yh people who need something to stop smoking are pussys

if u wanna stop then just dont smoke

+ vaping is gay

oh i don't wanna stop, final year need some kinda vice, could do with less chaining though

smoke cigs like a man then

http://sputniknews.com/us/20150307/1019176293.html

bout fucking time

why would saudis attack isis when isis attacks iraq syria & kurds

saudi troops are there for protecting the royals & that oil

until isis starts really fucking w either 1 of those things, theyre not gonna do shit

^ That.


But I think there's another reason. If it had been world war 2 or something, fine, but I dont think every country has the 'necessary' training that relates to anti-terror and stuff like that.

There might be a hierarchical structure where probably Americans go first and then it's a question who else has authority in a giving situation, if any.
There might not even be any form of autonomy apart from when being directly attacked. As it was the case most of the time in Afganistan ( I think).

I'm not certain, just saying''

http://www.theatlantic.com/features/arc ... ts/384980/

It's a long read but this article goes pretty in depth in regards to what ISIS is really doing and the nature of their project. Incredibly interesting.

I really don't like that article.

It fails to not look like a way of trying to paint these new super boogeymen 'muslims' as just even less progressive than the group of muslims that we as the developed group in a shared society, have already realized we can't continue calling non-progressive.

How can a new group be more dangerous if they are less educated?

They can't.

Unless!, - we apply some new definition of moral or incentives relating to their group... and that is asking a bit much, when the old type already were ready to explode themselves isn't it?.

So it's a newer system of belief that is just worse........now.
Maybe ofcourse.

Idk exactly what you're getting at, but I thought it was pretty nuanced and seemed somewhat non-biased when it came to ISIS internal structure and goals. There was a bit of editorialising in regards to how we can combat them, but that's to be expected imo. I thought it was cool to gain some insight into their organisation, and imo the first thing we need to if we want to handle them in any way is to understand them and not just write them off as super boogeymen, as you say. I'm not saying it's the definitive source in ISIS knowledge but it helps paint a broader picture. If we go into another war with the mentality that it's us vs them, good vs evil and they're just some super evil cartoon villains I guarantee things will be even shittier.