Dubstepforum.com

Riddles wrote:

Johoosh wrote:His Box Clever release is nuff underrated too

the B side, the double bass <3

BYERN BYERN BEEM BOM

Mix n blends with the A are great too - vs Forgive - Mala whoosh

tbh some of the best dubstep producers never got the praise and recognition they deserved. Cyrus being the most obvious one. Milanese, Omen, Moving Ninja...

yeah we say this a lot,

i've always found milanese just a bit too awkward

but i think all these people put out consistently great music but never had that one 12" that would really make them stand out, like a kalawanjii

that's an extremelly overrated record imo. then again i don't rate kromestar much apart from the funky/broken beat stuff he put out as dark knight
but w/e
probably doesn't help that these guys didn't put much music out there - unlike say kromestar, skream etc who churned out 12" after 12" or digital mystikz who had the most hyped dubs around
plus, bar cyrus, they disappeared before dubstep got big. altho farj from moving ninja is still involved with aquatic lab and garage pressure. and paul reactivated subtext but went all modern classical/dark ambient/industrial
shame omen vanished. his six6six label was promising

been through this?
viewtopic.php?f=1&t=157291
+ the jay5ive collabs

ultraspatial wrote:that's an extremelly overrated record imo

definitely agree but only because there are so many other kromestar records out there in the same style that are basically as good / almost as good but are waaaaayyyyy cheaper eg Badman, Get Up, Coca Cola, Agravashon, etc

ie, i don't think the tunes are over-rated, but i think the record is way overpriced, based on arbitrary things such as label, cat no, year, etc when records should be judged purely on the music imo

mIrReN wrote:been through this?
viewtopic.php?f=1&t=157291
+ the jay5ive collabs

yep

and i think the jay5ive collabs are even more

out of everything i listened to of his i only liked a handful of tunes; marz attack being my favourite. idk his music doesn't do anything for me

Medi01 sounds so dated aswell, and it's not like the tunes went off really hard or did something very exciting or new. just some wobblers. Mere Sher is much much better, at least it packs a punch.

u are all getting foed for this iconoclasm

Flute Song> Mere Sher

jrkhnds wrote:it's not like the tunes went off really hard

you kidding? When they first appeared in 05/06 tunes like Kalawanji and Haunted were getting multiple wheel ups. They were the bangers of their day.

listen to Haunted today and listen to Kalawanji right afterwards. I think Kalawanji sounds very underwhelming in comparison.

jrkhnds wrote:listen to Haunted today and listen to Kalawanji right afterwards. I think Kalawanji sounds very underwhelming in comparison.

this
fits right in w/ early dub police imo. same goes for rainy dayz
surgery sounds like a meh attempt at making a coki tune

jrkhnds wrote:listen to Haunted today and listen to Kalawanji right afterwards. I think Kalawanji sounds very underwhelming in comparison.

That is a very reductive way to think about music.

i thought cyrus was like the don dada

hubb wrote:i thought cyrus was like the don dada

I think he is up there with the best of em, but he does seem to get overlooked a fair bit.

Leyenda brought in Haunted, I just tried to illustrate my perception of the two tunes so he may understand my opinion of Kalawanji a bit better.

I could go on about all the things that make Kalawanji - for me - a more or less forgettable tune, but seriously, do you really care?

imo dubstep 'should' have taken this direction up more with the sort of akward, clumsy beats ...

Riddles wrote:

hubb wrote:i thought cyrus was like the don dada

I think he is up there with the best of em, but he does seem to get overlooked a fair bit.

I think we where kind of spoiled in my city with starkey, pinch, cyrus and similar comming over and showcasing some stuff right in the beginning, but at the same time that kind of ruined the genre for me because most other stuff was at the very least referencing their sound. Until Burial

@hubb re: wonky dubstep
that stuff was too maximalist and only marginally related to dubstep to really appeal to the heads and too weird for brosteppers imo
always thought the target audience for that sound was more "bass music" via idm types