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seckle wrote:vinyl forever.

and ban unmastered mp3's in the club. no amount of EQing can turn an unmastered mess into something thats ready to be run through amps and crossovers. its painful to the ears, and trust me, it doesn't go unnoticed. also, it gives people using serato a bad name. blame the unmastered file and the dj, but don't blame serato.

THIS.

You know, I just played last night at a residency I do here in downtown Phoenix. A DJ friend who was playing that night with us came up after I played and was asking for me to play another night blah blah, but he then said, "so this might sound weird, but why do you still use vinyl?" Why not use serato?" I responded to him saying I do use serato (I mean there are tons of tracks that never get pressed, and Im too poor to press all of them on a dubplate) so yes I use serato, however Im also lugging about 60 records with me wherever I go to play, along with my needles and headphones...

There is no culture here that respects where it came from, and people are oblivious (the crowd, and it seems alot of the DJs) to notice the huge difference on systems of the quality of sound vinyl presents over digital 320's... and if you bootleg (shit I know people who bootleg 96kbps and play em) you will hear worse coming out of those speakers, and just as Seckle said, no effort of EQing will make it sound better. It will sound so muddy. Also I think people here in Phoenix have low expectations for what something is supposed to sound like coming out of a club's sound system. We lack so hard in decent sound systems in decent venues.. and people just don't care, so maybe they don't care about a digital file vs. a vinyl record... I sure as shit do.

It really says something about a city, because I get it all the time from people. Not to mention, if anyone here has heard of 1SON out of Phoenix, me and him are (I think?) 2 of the only DJs that spin vinyl out in the electronic scene here in general that I have seen not even specific to dubstep in the last... shit I dunno 3 years?!?!

still buying vinyl, I'm DJing too since 1998... I also use djdecks from time to time but playing vinyl feels more appropriate to me.
The only downside is the space issue. I got like 5,000 records and need to clear out the vaults but somehow I don't feel like doing it because I have sold lots of records in the past that I thought I don't need/like/listen to anymore and a couple years later the appreciation for these records grew again somewhat and I was trying to hunt down a copy at a reasonable price...
as long as there's good music coming out on vinyl and s long as I can afford it I'm gonna buy vinyl til the casket drop

seckle wrote:ban unmastered mp3's in the club.

I dunno man, a lot of hip hop 12"es and other records aren't mastered and playing brickwalled mp3s ripped from a CD is certainly not the way to go either. Not saying that they sound bad, for loud playing they're actually good to a certain extent. Serato and other DJ applications actually "decompress" such files to a "close to vinyl" sound.

It's not so much about mastering as the guys with the unreleased unmastered tunes don't have an much experience with mix-downs. A well mixed tune will sound beautiful, just maybe not as loud (so add a bit of gain).

Not any more, buy all my tracks digitally since I picked up my NS7's... but still dig out the 12's when I feel the need.
You'll always have the hardcore, I don't see the majority of people who buy vinyl stopping any time soon.

from Madlib's first Quasimoto album-

"Yo Madlib why you waste so much money on records and getting high man?"


"Man, I ain't got no time for silly shit. Throw this record on, pack a bowl, take a hit..."

if you try and bass eq boost an unmastered mp3 (and 90% of the time there's an electronic crossover being used in the club you're spinning at )all that happens is that all the frequencies that you should be delivering cleanly through the mixer, will be going through clipped because of the unmastered low end sub from the mixdown. the bass boost you add at that point will throw the crossover off, and all you'd end up turning out is muddy farty mid range sub. this is the worst of the worst in terms of audio experience. helps no one out at all, especially people that are paying good money at the door.

now if you're spinning on a club with a shit system, then it doesn't matter what format you're using. its going to be rough.

I don't really see how someone can't tell the difference between playing records and cds/mp3s on a stereo... perhaps you've used a budget needle all your life, but I can hear the difference on my stereo/headphones just fine.

Haven't bought cds since 2006, I buy only vinyl now, this is facilitated through working at an indie record store and getting shit at cost.

DanRev wrote:There's just something special about going into a proper record shop.

Amen to that.

I find something special about raiding charity shops too. Nothing better than finding a vinyl gem for 50p.

Less Dubstep lately, but I do buy vinyl .. alot.

not a dj,but buying vinyl once in a month (because of expensive postage)