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ThinKing wrote:when you consider all the amazing tunes Skream has done, i just get the feeling this is
more of a 'snapshot' than a real 'album' in terms of concept.

'Snapshot' was my immediate thought too. But the guy's prolific;
to launch with a 40 track triple-CD would indulgent for us and overkill for everyone else..

Markle wrote:Can you imagine a fresh pair of ears listening to 11 tracks of bollock breaking dubstep...?
They might be a little put off...pussies!

I will never say this again... but i want my bollocks broken.

In itself its a brilliant album - I think we're forgetting that he's still pretty young but really accomplished musically. Personally it suffers due to comparisons to the Skreamizms, which I think are both better. Also because we've heard all the tunes on Rinse so many times, the album doesn't gel very cohesively.

You can bet the next on will be a blinder though.

dubstep.
giveth with one hand and slappeth with the other.

poax wrote:dubstep.
giveth with one hand and slappeth with the other.

here here pokes.
no one in dubstep is allowed to be successful because the internet says so. reminds me of dnb 5 years ago.

RANDOM TRIO wrote:I think you'll find that summer dreams trumpet was played live by 1 of the fellas from jamiroquai. Thats big in itself.

Its hard to be able to make a whole album with tunes to please every 1. personally i think the album is sik.

any 1 ever brought an album and loved every track??

"With a twist" by Lemon.

Biggles.

seckle wrote:

poax wrote:dubstep.
giveth with one hand and slappeth with the other.

here here pokes.
no one in dubstep is allowed to be successful because the internet says so. reminds me of dnb 5 years ago.

not about success or otherwise. all i can see is sum healthy discussion about the album - whether some aren't feeling it because most of the tunes have been out on dub for a while, whether newer listeners will get more of a 'wow' effect cos they're not so familiar with the tunes, if it's well sequenced, whether the refixes are better than the original dubs blahblah blahblah. no sour grapes/anti-success at all, s'all good

rachel wrote:

seckle wrote:

poax wrote:dubstep.
giveth with one hand and slappeth with the other.

here here pokes.
no one in dubstep is allowed to be successful because the internet says so. reminds me of dnb 5 years ago.

not about success or otherwise. all i can see is sum healthy discussion about the album - whether some aren't feeling it because most of the tunes have been out on dub for a while, whether newer listeners will get more of a 'wow' effect cos they're not so familiar with the tunes, if it's well sequenced, whether the refixes are better than the original dubs blahblah blahblah. no sour grapes/anti-success at all, s'all good

Indeed, and the occasional sour grape is the price you pay for an anonymous democratic forum.

As long as its kept civilized I don't see a problem.

heres what they wrote (not sure if this will make anyone want to buy it though lol):

So dubstep's golden boy releases his debut album and unfortunatley it's not the album it should be.
If you've been following his career you'll probably have the best tracks on vinyl, but too many compromises and trying to please everyone, instead of a well thought out album proper which highlights what he's best at, cripples this debut. The vocal track Check-it with Warrior Queen is let down by having an out of time vocal, there are too many digi-dub style tracks and the last track is horrible coffee table nonsense.

We understand that Skream is highly talented and have praised him in the past, rememember we thought Request Line was one of the tracks of the year last year, but this collection of tracks doesn't cut it, it doesn't feel as if it has been laboured over enough which is what an album should feel like, check Kode 9 or Burial instead, which are albums which feel like a lot of hardwork and thought has gone into them. At the end of the day the proof is in the eating though, and the vinyl has a different selection of tracks including Rutten, Dubbers Anonymous and Digital Mystikz remix of Request Line. We look forward to the next album, hoping it's much better.

seckle wrote:

poax wrote:dubstep.
giveth with one hand and slappeth with the other.

here here pokes.
no one in dubstep is allowed to be successful because the internet says so. reminds me of dnb 5 years ago.

what? can we not make any (constructively) critical remarks then, or is it just cos it's Skreamz? was blackdown wrong to write this?

If only it could have included some of the gems that have made Skream so core to the development of dubstep, such as "The Judgment," "Almighty Father" remix, "Indian Dub", "Sweetz", "Angry", "28g ft Loefah", "Deep Concentration," and many others, then it might not have felt like a missed opportunity

noone is cussing down Skreamz, we all know he's overly-talented, and no doubt we all own a lot of his tunes on wax. It's just a bit of opining.



btw Jamiroquai's first 2 LPs were awesome. lost their way a bit after the departure of Stuart Zender when he chipped off to knob one of the All Saints tho.

tbh who cares - let skream make what he wants and release what he wants. he's not under obligation to anyone

Never a truer word spoken.. Its his album, not anyone elses so stop complaining!
Anyway that album is sweet!

[quote=".rudetone."]Never a truer word spoken.. Its his album, not anyone elses so stop complaining!
quote]

er, he wants us to buy it doesnt he? if he wants us to buy it, we can say whatever we like about it (respectfully of course)... if i buy a meal at a restaurant, no one would say 'you cant say anything bad about the food' so i dont see why we have to all keep our mouths shut when it comes to music. also, most chefs are a lot more prolific than skream

also, most chefs are a lot more prolific than skream

If it was any other producer I'd agree with you, but....

being prolific doesnt necessarily mean all the tracks are gonna be great though. its interesting and amazing that one guy can create so much so quickly but that doesnt always mean the quality of the tracks is going to be high. i think skream has a lot of moments of genius, but not everything he touches is on that level. the album is proof of that. some of those tracks should have been left on his hard drive. thats one thing about producers who make so much - they dont always know what to release and what to keep in the vault.

my problem with skream is that i know for a fact he's a shit hot producer and i don't understand why he's released a half arsed record when he's got so much more to offer. one of the things i love about skream (along with Digi Mystikz) is that alot of his tunes used to sound proper natural, the majority these days don't, like he's just trying to churn out bangers - but thats just from what i'm hearing on radio and that...