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morro_e wrote:

abZ wrote: now to the bug topic. i've seen him live and it wasnt a dj'ing. live performance is what live performance is. he could've just put it all up synched and matched in ableton but he just does it his way. and i really enjoyed and liked that way of his. so please stop crying. have you seen a live band perform? do they beatmatch?

a live band uses instruments to play notes... the bug pushes a button to start a track
I've seen many electronic music producers and artists blend their tracks together (uhm daft punk?)
the parallel with jamaican soundclash makes sense I guess but I can't say that I got to hear anything new that I hadnt heard on the record... which is what I thought was the whole point. (dubplate specials and such)

you can go ahead and enjoy such a performance... I'm just saying I don't... nor do I see how it is a performance at all (not from the bug at least)... it's different from what you usually get... but I really do enjoy a performance where the artist is a bit more involved in his set. I mean personally... I got into producing to have a more direct control over the structure and sound to eventually be able to construct a live set that pushes the boundaries of regular dj'ing...

no its the other thing with the bug

he's crazy good and the way he smashes everything with/into noise is top. skeng live? yes please

i never had a problem with beatmatching until i switched to playing dubplates.
when i was rockin all vinyl it was no problem, you can do that shit everyone does where you cue and pull the record back and forth and drop it right on time...
no big deal.

with dubs, they don't track for shit. you pretty much have to lightly pinch a corner of the slipmat fur, and let go right on time... then if you're lucky, it'll start on the first note. usually if you get used to the setup you're on after a couple mixes you're gold...
but this takes a lot of beatmatching time away, and you pretty much have to cue in from where you drop it.
this means 16 bars(or less) to get that shit on point, eq'd, and dropped. one time deal.

also, i don't have any decks anymore, so i only play when i have gigs...

what i'm getting at is this:
i played a set a couple weeks ago that i thought was the shit! crowd was hyped, i had some draaaaank and only remembered fucking up one mix...
i went for a couple weeks and thought i had the greatest set ever.

i got the recorded set and it was absolute shit. i was so embarrassed when i listened to it.
however- all night people were talling me it was a great set, SOOOO clean, this and that.

so fuck it. does beatmatching matter? no.

if the crowd can't tell, why should we?

this stays in this thread

eshscramble wrote:i never had a problem with beatmatching until i switched to playing dubplates.
when i was rockin all vinyl it was no problem, you can do that shit everyone does where you cue and pull the record back and forth and drop it right on time...
no big deal.

with dubs, they don't track for shit. you pretty much have to lightly pinch a corner of the slipmat fur, and let go right on time... then if you're lucky, it'll start on the first note. usually if you get used to the setup you're on after a couple mixes you're gold...
but this takes a lot of beatmatching time away, and you pretty much have to cue in from where you drop it.
this means 16 bars(or less) to get that shit on point, eq'd, and dropped. one time deal.

also, i don't have any decks anymore, so i only play when i have gigs...

what i'm getting at is this:
i played a set a couple weeks ago that i thought was the shit! crowd was hyped, i had some draaaaank and only remembered fucking up one mix...
i went for a couple weeks and thought i had the greatest set ever.

i got the recorded set and it was absolute shit. i was so embarrassed when i listened to it.
however- all night people were talling me it was a great set, SOOOO clean, this and that.

so fuck it. does beatmatching matter? no.

if the crowd can't tell, why should we?

this stays in this thread

I always get the most compliments for my worst sets. I can't explain it!

abZ wrote:I always get the most compliments for my worst sets. I can't explain it!

haha! this! and i dont have to go deep in my memory for the example of it. just last saturday i was a bit over too high than i used to do while playing out and there was almost no beatmachin at all and i thought i fucked up . just put some lovely records. well i got some people coming up saying it was a good set.

this is a fundamental part of electronic music and cannot be ignored

abZ wrote:

eshscramble wrote:i never had a problem with beatmatching until i switched to playing dubplates.
when i was rockin all vinyl it was no problem, you can do that shit everyone does where you cue and pull the record back and forth and drop it right on time...
no big deal.

with dubs, they don't track for shit. you pretty much have to lightly pinch a corner of the slipmat fur, and let go right on time... then if you're lucky, it'll start on the first note. usually if you get used to the setup you're on after a couple mixes you're gold...
but this takes a lot of beatmatching time away, and you pretty much have to cue in from where you drop it.
this means 16 bars(or less) to get that shit on point, eq'd, and dropped. one time deal.

also, i don't have any decks anymore, so i only play when i have gigs...

what i'm getting at is this:
i played a set a couple weeks ago that i thought was the shit! crowd was hyped, i had some draaaaank and only remembered fucking up one mix...
i went for a couple weeks and thought i had the greatest set ever.

i got the recorded set and it was absolute shit. i was so embarrassed when i listened to it.
however- all night people were talling me it was a great set, SOOOO clean, this and that.

so fuck it. does beatmatching matter? no.

if the crowd can't tell, why should we?

this stays in this thread

I always get the most compliments for my worst sets. I can't explain it!

Been thinking about getting a laptop/macbook for sometime now and also getting Traktor DJ as well, would help if there were any good sites to help me learn how to DJ?

zonetrooper5 wrote:Been thinking about getting a laptop/macbook for sometime now and also getting Traktor DJ as well, would help if there were any good sites to help me learn how to DJ?

Try to teach yourself, youll develop your own style and (hopefully) find mixing more rewarding.

I think that if a producer cant DJ or cant bother to learn then they should use traktor pro and use the sync function, as long as your beatgrids are set proper then it auto beat matches for you. No trainwrecking, then they can focus more on the creative side of mixing EQing, filters, effects and track selection and flow. Producers are creative people so why not get the beatmatching out of the way and make your sets unique. But if you can beatmatch fine then its all good, beatmatching is fun but frustrating if your not used to it