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Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 2:37 pm
by tom_warsaw
I hail from a a little town with a big trad dub scene, big dnb scene.. Done a couple of little dubstep bits n pieces upstairs at different events, by far the most appreciative are the younger reggae heads. Tend to play to a crowd of 90% dubstep virgins, picking up followers here and there, but usually not dnb heads.
I understand why people could think of it as room 2 genre, I guess some people see it as a mish mash of half a dozen different genres so in theory it can compliment different kinds of music.. I don't think it actually works like that though, just see it as straight out dubstep music, as opposed to, 'Well it's dubby sub-bass, garage influence, techno this 'n' that, etc...' Time will see the identity set further in stone, and room 1 events will come from that.
Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 7:37 pm
by jackquinox
misoh wrote:It really all depends on line up, whos putting it on, venue etc.
I play a lot of 2nd rooms at DnB nights.
The first one i did, well, hmmm, i arrived and there were millions of hardcore dnb gurned up people raving away. I thought I was gunna have to play to them, but when i went on at 12 downstairs opened, so I ended up playing to 1 bloke who asked me if I could play some "faster dubstep". Later he apologised and said he'd never heard Dubstep before.
After 45 mins of my set the speakers blew downstairs and up they all came and just stood looking at me, got a few words of abuse off some Bristolian girls like, "ere you love yourself dont you?", that kinda thing.
Then they cut my set short to put on the DnB again.
A few of us played a 2nd room at a Psy Trance night the other day, which i thought was the weirdest combination in the world (me being a psy trance big time hater). But, there was a good and very busy. Still tho, people asking for faster stuff.
Its pretty annoying being booked for a gig cos you play dubstep then being asked to play sumthing faster. But still, it doesnt bother me that much.
I think people feel the need to put Dubstep on at their night whatever it may be, cos Dubstep is massive. I seriously think tho, that not every night needs Dubstep cos people just arent up for it.
But...
My night in Bristol - Dubstep / Hip Hop / DnB / Jungle / Breakcore / Electronica.
The main room at one point went Loefah - Vex'd - Chase and Status, I was a bit worried to say the least, but the dancefloor was the most packed ive ever seen it be and the people that were loving the dnb were loving the dubstep and vice versa, the vibe was honestly one of the best ive ever seen.
Which is why im doin it again.
But yeh....it all depends really, like i said up there.
Babble babble lol
Understand your pain mate me and my friends used to run a techno night in a shitty club where you normally get psy-trance and heavy d and b nights, everytime i was in the box someone would come up to me and say "hey when are you gonna play some proper techno" i said im playing records by derrick may, carl craig, underground resistance and metroplex how much more techno do you want. " yeah but thats not proper techno is it" ohhhhh the pain just a whimsical smile and putting the headphones back on sent them away. The floor was good everyone felt it when the drugs kicked in (dont know if thats good or bad!).
Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 8:37 pm
by drew
Its interesting to read all these opinions. We've been doing straight up dubstep events, and have been host to dubstep areas at dnb clubs. What Im understanding though is dnb in Los Angeles is very different. DnB in LA is huge, probably one of the largest scenes currently in America. Its not a pills scene as much as a beer and weed scene, and the crowd is really well educated on the music.
Starting out with no dubstep scene at all, we initially promoted to dnb heads, and got a really good response. Most people, especially the older heads, have really gotten into it. We host a monthly dubstep room during the Wednesday dnb club Funktion, and I think it has done well. Its a large dancefloor with a decent amount of sound.
Our goal is to do one off events, but I think we will continue the second rooms too as long as the response is positive and it is exposing new people to the music.
Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 1:56 am
by pompende
dubstep plus beer makes me want to bounce around the room so prob wouldnt work out that well for people that were actually there for chilling out
dont forget broken beat
Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 4:01 pm
by owengriffiths
Dubstep in main room, Broken beat in chill out room, but as most clubs are small and only have one room, you could warm up the night with broken to prime the dancefloor for the upcoming bass. Only problem is that Nu Jazz/ Broken Beat is a fair bit slower than dubstep (house bpm only a slightly faster), so you probably wouldn't get away with smooth back to back mixing of the styles unless you had the master tempo/key correction feature you have on top of the range cdj's.
Personally I think the scene needs more vocals and more 'fluffy' sounds in it. Think S&D-Candyfloss and Mala- Anti-War Dub, think Cays Cray. Even think of Steve Gurley. Broken beat (and lets face it out of all the dance genres those boys know how to do a vocal with class, they never fuck it up!) isn't always a million miles away from dubstep. Check out these for stuff where the boundaries blur:-
Daz I Kue ft Colonel red- 'Rokstone (soon come' (Boulder Dub)
Bakura- 'Bada' (Domu Dub)
Son of Scientist- 'keep it burning' (off the burning ep)
There is a place for the Co-op sound in dubstep, trust me. J Da Flex & bad man Zed Bias dem tell me no lies.