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Posted: **Fri Jul 02, 2010 7:54 am**

legend4ry wrote:Depends what kinda hiphop you like...

I like sampled, straigh forward hiphop.

I am not a huge fan of that wonky stuff people are making these days (it just sounds like a gameboy being put through a blender 90% of the time)

Just listening and analyse your favourite tunes and repulcate it, then once you got that down, move onto something original.. same advice i'd give to anyone making dubstep..

Its not that hard working at different BPMs... I mean, my hiphop tunes, house tunes and dubstep tunes all have the same "sound" .. its just knowing how to produce music you like, really!

dont want to sound like im lookin for trouble mate... but to me... the older stuff and the newer stuff really sound a lot alike... the tools have changed.. the philosophy is the same... plus theres a vivid tendency towards old school sonic aesthetics eg: 808s and 909s... rock samples...

now if u wanna talk about the rappers.. i agree.. they sound like shit in a blender nowadays

Posted: **Fri Jul 02, 2010 7:55 am**

Ldizzy wrote:
legend4ry wrote:Depends what kinda hiphop you like...

I like sampled, straigh forward hiphop.

I am not a huge fan of that wonky stuff people are making these days (it just sounds like a gameboy being put through a blender 90% of the time)

Just listening and analyse your favourite tunes and repulcate it, then once you got that down, move onto something original.. same advice i'd give to anyone making dubstep..

Its not that hard working at different BPMs... I mean, my hiphop tunes, house tunes and dubstep tunes all have the same "sound" .. its just knowing how to produce music you like, really!
dont want to sound like im lookin for trouble mate... but to me... the older stuff and the newer stuff really sound a lot alike... the tools have changed.. the philosophy is the same... plus theres an explicit tendency towards old school sonic aesthetics eg: 808s and 909s... rock samples...

now if u wanna talk about the rappers.. i agree.. they sound like shit in a blender nowadays

Posted: **Fri Jul 02, 2010 8:25 am**

Ldizzy wrote:
Ldizzy wrote:
legend4ry wrote:Depends what kinda hiphop you like...

I like sampled, straigh forward hiphop.

I am not a huge fan of that wonky stuff people are making these days (it just sounds like a gameboy being put through a blender 90% of the time)

Just listening and analyse your favourite tunes and repulcate it, then once you got that down, move onto something original.. same advice i'd give to anyone making dubstep..

Its not that hard working at different BPMs... I mean, my hiphop tunes, house tunes and dubstep tunes all have the same "sound" .. its just knowing how to produce music you like, really!
dont want to sound like im lookin for trouble mate... but to me... the older stuff and the newer stuff really sound a lot alike... the tools have changed.. the philosophy is the same... plus theres an explicit tendency towards old school sonic aesthetics eg: 808s and 909s... rock samples...

now if u wanna talk about the rappers.. i agree.. they sound like shit in a blender nowadays

Maybe we're just looking in different places.. I mainly only listen British hiphop but whenever I try and find new American, its got large emphysis on wonky beats and electronic sounds.. Its just not my cuppa tea!

I am just a fan of the cut and paste style I guess and slept on the electronic side of things all my life as it doesn't interest me, though since theres more people actively making music these days - you hear more of it.

Saying that, I am a huge sucker for the g-funk synth sounds (in moderation, obviously) and i'm sure a few people on here can tell you my utter detestment of 808s, apart from bass.

Posted: **Sat Jul 03, 2010 1:54 pm**

It's generally the low bpm that is what throws most producers off when they switch from one genre to another. If you can just find some hip-hop beat loops and then load them into something like slicex. Then load up your own beat samples then go through and place your own kicks and snares in the same positions as the ones in the loop. By being able to actually see the placement of the kicks and snares it makes it a lot easier to feel out the typical hip-hop beat patterns and time signatures.

I don't listen to hip-hop much anymore, and I haven't for awhile, but I will say that after hearing Eminem's new song "Won't Back Down" from his new album I'm thinking the 3/4 time signature is much more interesting than your typical hip-hop beats. Would love to see hip-hop use more of this. It also seems much more of a friendlier time signature to producers of high bpm genres when making the occasional crossover.