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man when dudes like fretn show up its best to block em and carry on.

i want to see how he can justify his fucking ridiculous statement

parson wrote:man when dudes like fretn show up its best to block em and carry on.

I love debating with people that challenge my views personally...

I feel they are strong enough to withstand conjecture..

he seems alright usually anyway...apart from when he said he like sweetshop vip

i am with you guys as you might expect but for him to come to a thread mainly concurring and state his alternate view has credibility in a sense...

but there is so much evidence pointing away from the official line that he has a qualification in it must be said..

people who wanna debate about stuff they outright reject and are just going to be looking for ways to poke holes in your perspective are sucking black holes. they aren't going to help anybody learn anything.

you can bring people around man...

my approach is more likely to than condemnation i'd say

but more people can get much further if you don't stop to cater to the unwilling

like when jesus said that nuts that are too hard won't crack but one that is ready requires no effort

alan watts says the tao is like sailing. opening nuts that are ready is more like sailing.

hackman wrote:

fretn wrote:I study history & had archeology/geography in my 1ste bachelor, so i think i know what i'm talking about.

seeing as how mainstream archaeology dismisses this, cos it can't explain it, i don't think your qualification is relevant at all, and i don't think you know what your talking about at all either lol, sorry
please explain to me these findings from the video then:

the submerged stuff off japan
the cup with magnetic field on inside not outside
steel chrome ball found in statuette, dated 12,000 years old
all the stuff made from ludite (don't know if that's spelled correctly) which is impossible to make today
all their knowledge of microscopic body stuff, sperm eggs
the writing that doesn't fit any south american culture, and is found all over the world
the crazy skulls

this and also: it wasn't just one stone, there were more, designs were quite accurate and here we don't talk about basic shapes you find everywhere, like squares and spirals, so the probability for that to be just a coincidence i bet my ass it's close to zero

Pistonsbeneath wrote: I love debating with people that challenge my views personally...

same
and i'm doing it for me more than for them sometimes because any idea needs crash tests
yet, what i don't have enough patience for is wasting time with eggs thrown on my windshields and claims they trashed my shit, that's no crash test, that's just boring.

Ok guys, respect for your opinions.
I clearly don't share mine with yours in this case, and that's normal.
I'll watch the video again, this time in a sober state, and i will try to form a positive debate.

fretn wrote:Ok guys, respect for your opinions.
I clearly don't share mine with yours in this case, and that's normal.
I'll watch the video again, this time in a sober state, and i will try to form a positive debate.

forget the word opinion
focus on what is and what's not. as simple as that
in this case "what is" is an impossibility to fit those discoveries in the current history of mankind as taught by the mainstream science.
if you find a possibility, please share, i for one will pay attention

this just proves that long ago there were big civilizations and super humans who were prolly even smarter than we are now. And that the earth has changed big time

"just" proves?
so that isn't a big deal, that scientists and archaeologists have been getting it wrong and lying (maybe some) for fookin ages?

pyramids could be built the shape they are because it's the strongest architectural structure.......or because they're 'consciousness resonators' i suppose

alfie wrote:pyramids could be built the shape they are because it's the strongest architectural structure.......or because they're 'consciousness resonators' i suppose

there's many pyramidal shapes, the ratios between height, width and whatever in the egyptian ones are special, so is the placement of some of the sarcophagi
i don't know anything similar ever except the russian experiments

But the pyramids all have some sort of significance behind them, something to do with worshipping and astronomy. Something that could be worth noting is that the bottom of the pyramid with the eye, the inscription states something about the son of the creator. There were also 12 chalices, and then there's the mayan calander ending in 2012, which people presume is the rapture. If creatures from the orions belt did come to Earth then they could return in 2012? Wild speculation but you never know. I'm not exactly waiting for this but it would be pretty cool if this happened.

About the stone maps, there was also an eye inlay on one side, over Saudi Arabia, which I believe is near the cradle of civilization.

+ the 17 steps exactly like on the dollar bill...
a lot of stuff, and too many pieces missing in the puzzle, i guess we need to collect more of them before we can hope to have a clear picture.
one thing is clear though: smart and well intended scientists and authorities would create a large debate over this in order to stimulate research and discoveries, instead of making these forgotten. and i bet who didn't manage to hide these deep enough managed though to hide some of the missing pieces. our main problems might not be only time and erosion here, but the makers of the dollar bill too

Illuminati.

Out of interest, what makes Klaus Donas any more credible than conventional sources on human history? For people that seem sceptical on all information you get, you are swallowing up his claims pretty easily.

curse wrote:Out of interest, what makes Klaus Donas any more credible than conventional sources on human history? For people that seem sceptical on all information you get, you are swallowing up his claims pretty easily.

this is what i'm talking about.
I don't understand why regular archeology is not enough, come on I mean "is this also a conspiracy"?
Why should this conspiracy even exist?

curse wrote:Out of interest, what makes Klaus Donas any more credible than conventional sources on human history? For people that seem sceptical on all information you get, you are swallowing up his claims pretty easily.

i know where youre coming from and there are LOADS of people from unofficial sources that i and many others on here don't agree with...

This isn't the first person we heard matey...

I think for me when all media is owned by a handful of people all with links to the real power of this world finding the truth from any one of their puppet organisations is going to be near enough impossible...

The tv is there to keep us in line....not educate us....it has no interest in making people think...have you read the holy blood and the holy grail btw?

that may lay the groundwork within you to be more open to if not accepting what i believe is truth but too at least see that the official story is a crock of shit...

that book scared the shit out of everyone and involved painstaking research...the catholic church admitted it may have been true....thing is admitting these things as a whole society would need to rebuild itself...