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Re: Low On Cash & Want To Make Mixes
Posted: Sat May 29, 2010 11:12 am
by jyro
Basic A wrote:
Dude you dont need decks to DJ and Im tired of people thinking you do. Quit caring whathardcore old heads think of you. Thier gonna die of old age soon and as long as your really beatmatching and not ableton visual cueing noone is going to judge you for being digital.
I think, the biggest thing everyone is neglecting to remind you people of is that you will be needing a multi-out soundcard to be able to handle cueing!
The layout of the controller shouldnt matter much, as long as it has all the buttons/faders/knobs you need, thats why I suggested the nano.
But, if you do wnat to learn, your not going to be able to do it with a controller alone. Id rather trade my controller and go back to a mouse then not have Cue... that would, quite literally, be impossible if your not being a total douche n visual matching.
Could you please elaborate on this point please? Im interested in getting a usb mixer for the purpose of mixing my own productions. I thuoght that tracktor allowed you to cue a track?
Thanks
Re: Low On Cash & Want To Make Mixes
Posted: Sat May 29, 2010 3:01 pm
by jyro
I'm going to put in an order for one ofthe following;
http://www.thomann.de/ie/maudio_torq_mixlab.htm
http://www.thomann.de/ie/korg_nanokontrol_black.htm
http://www.thomann.de/ie/novation_nocturn.htm
Anyone have a last minute suggestion? People seem to be mostly in favour of the Korg, but as I'm going to be using it for mixing the m-audio looks more like what I am looking for.
Re: Low On Cash & Want To Make Mixes
Posted: Sat May 29, 2010 3:27 pm
by Basic A
Traktor will allow you too cue a track if your hardware does... what do you expect it to play your cue ups out the same output its playing your audiences master?
A multi-out soundcard is going to give you headphone cue...
Re: Low On Cash & Want To Make Mixes
Posted: Sat May 29, 2010 5:57 pm
by nowaysj
http://www.dubstepforum.com/dj-midi-con ... 45040.html
some mixers in there. I would look at the vestax vci-100 or the hercules rmx.
Re: Low On Cash & Want To Make Mixes
Posted: Sat May 29, 2010 6:38 pm
by Basic A
Yeah dude it all depends on what you plan to use a controller for. Remember, you can map just about anything to just about anything midi, so, its really a matter of looking at the layout, and seeing if you could map it to suit your workflow.
That n durability.
Dont buy Gemini or Hercules midi mixers if thier plastic, the plastic lines die faaast.
And remember, chances are, youll need audio interface too.
Re: Low On Cash & Want To Make Mixes
Posted: Sat May 29, 2010 6:53 pm
by nowaysj
The hercules rmx is aluminum, and it is an audio card as well, lets you plug in turntables too. I don't know about the build quality, but on paper (screen) it looks like a very good deal.
Re: Low On Cash & Want To Make Mixes
Posted: Sun May 30, 2010 7:41 am
by Basic A
nowaysj wrote:The hercules rmx is aluminum, and it is an audio card as well, lets you plug in turntables too. I don't know about the build quality, but on paper (screen) it looks like a very good deal.
Yeah why I stressed thier plastic stuff, the rmx is a beautiful piece of kit...
Re: Low On Cash & Want To Make Mixes
Posted: Sun May 30, 2010 10:19 pm
by jyro
Can you assign functions to the knobs on the Hercules RMX?
Re: Low On Cash & Want To Make Mixes
Posted: Sun May 30, 2010 10:40 pm
by Basic A
jyro wrote:Can you assign functions to the knobs on the Hercules RMX?
Its midi man.
Swhat it does
Re: Low On Cash & Want To Make Mixes
Posted: Mon May 31, 2010 11:55 pm
by jyro
I picked up a hercules rmx today. Really cool solid unit - thanks for the advice. Going to have a lot of fun with it.
gotta say, the virtual dj software is ugly as hell. Been trying to get the unit working with traktor but no luck so far.
Re: Low On Cash & Want To Make Mixes
Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 2:00 am
by Basic A
jyro wrote:I picked up a hercules rmx today. Really cool solid unit - thanks for the advice. Going to have a lot of fun with it.
gotta say, the virtual dj software is ugly as hell. Been trying to get the unit working with traktor but no luck so far.
Ive never used VDJ but traktor Ive never had much trouble with...
Be more speicfic man we can help you.
Re: Low On Cash & Want To Make Mixes
Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 4:18 am
by nowaysj
I had a play with traktor, I thought it was really good. I know fuck all about virtual dj software in general, but traktor was really straight forward. Some of the looping cue shit was a little weird, but still. Da bomb diggity.
Re: Low On Cash & Want To Make Mixes
Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 6:08 pm
by jyro
Got the hercules workign with Traktor. You can download all of the midi setting from the Hercules support website.
Having lots of fun with this using. Trying to avioud using the sync button and just allign everything using the jog wheels but as I cant preview my cued tracking until my new sound card arrived its a little more tricky!
Thanks for the advice on this Basic A
Re: Low On Cash & Want To Make Mixes
Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 6:20 pm
by Basic A
Heh, np man, youll be glad you took it when your on that universal djing plane of thought, n are competent on all mixes.
Its a workflow man.
But...
Best advice I can give...
Get on that 2 out soundcard
Re: Low On Cash & Want To Make Mixes
Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 6:21 pm
by nowaysj
Cant you use the rmx as the sound card to monitor? You should be able to.
btw, what did you pay for this?
Re: Low On Cash & Want To Make Mixes
Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 11:15 pm
by jyro
I actually got a Hercules control steel - which has the exact same controls/features just without any of the in/outs having only a usb. I got it secondhand on a buyandsell site for £70 (good going!) and it is in perfect condition.
All I need no is a two (+) channel usb soundcard and Im sorted. These seem to be cheap so wont be a problem.
Re: Low On Cash & Want To Make Mixes
Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 11:36 pm
by nowaysj
So you will mix in your computer, and just use a stereo out for your monitors? What about your headphones, or is that what you need the 2 out for?
Wish I could get a deal like that on a steel. I'd buy one today!
Re: Low On Cash & Want To Make Mixes
Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 11:40 pm
by jyro
with the virtual dj software (and traktor too) you can assign separate headphone and stereo outs as long as your soundcard has enough channels (as basic a explained to me earlier)
Re: Low On Cash & Want To Make Mixes
Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 3:41 am
by Basic A
jyro wrote:with the virtual dj software (and traktor too) you can assign separate headphone and stereo outs as long as your soundcard has enough channels (as basic a explained to me earlier)
Re: Low On Cash & Want To Make Mixes
Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 4:21 am
by nowaysj
jyro wrote:with the virtual dj software (and traktor too) you can assign separate headphone and stereo outs as long as your soundcard has enough channels (as basic a explained to me earlier)
So what channels are you going to use? I thought you said you were going to get a 2 out usb. 2 out is just one stereo out, right?