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i still, to this day, have not fully grasped the term brostep and I have to say - I'm kinda happy about that

dignan wrote:i still, to this day, have not fully grasped the term brostep and I have to say - I'm kinda happy about that

agreed

dignan wrote:i still, to this day, have not fully grasped the term brostep and I have to say - I'm kinda happy about that

its just forum hype

reso wrote:everyone quit wining and just learn what Bernard has to teach, what an absolute feckin don:


Groove people!!!!

who the hell is this guy? throwing his opinions around like he knows anything about music....











































































(but seriously.... you're my idol)

Sharmaji wrote:b...an hour long set by early-warm dj's of chainsaw massacre with nothing but kick on one,snare on 3, and hyper-quantized 16th note hihats is just lamer than lame. Really. dance music = drums, and the drums in the majority of these heavier-than-heavy tunes suck balls. PLEASE up your drum game-- not just for myself, not for the other DJ's, but for the dancefloor.

Yea man
Get some shuffle in yer Bro-muffle Brosteppers!

cloak and dagger wrote:In all honesty, there is a MUCH higher standard regarding drum patterns in house than there is in brostep...and if we're talking about swing, then you'll find it in house more than you will in brostep. I'm guessing a lot of the guys that make these really substandard drum patterns in brostep are the same ones that listen to a house track and only hear 4/4 kicks.

Fuck, you've been on my nerves lately, but this shit is too funny. To bust out a really old idiom, CHA CHING.

More comments to follow, just had to interject mid thread read.

llamastep

"this bass is so heavy i could make out with a llama or alpaca"

Well, it's obvious they spend ton of time automating the LFOs for a tune, and after they get this wowowowawawawobwobbreeebraaaaapbibibibbobobo shit they think it's ready for the world to make them superstars, like they have anymore time to sequence decent drums, fame can't wait!!! ...

...but basically they are just kids with computers playing games (called FL studio, reason, cubase...), and posting their results on the internet... they are no musicians... But out of 20 of them, at least 1 or 2 will get addicted, continue and develop themselves into real producers who put their soul into music (whether it's filth or deep...)

When i started with the electronic music production sometimes in 2000/01 , there weren't any social networks or forums, and I got ultra slow net connection so couldn't flood the internet with my garbage... Nowdays, you open your sequencer, do wobwob, render, and in minutes you can flood everything on the web with your tune you think it's super ultra mega cool. But I've got no problems with that, it's the spirit of this time... "I want everything, and I want it now!"

nowaysj wrote:

cloak and dagger wrote:In all honesty, there is a MUCH higher standard regarding drum patterns in house than there is in brostep...and if we're talking about swing, then you'll find it in house more than you will in brostep. I'm guessing a lot of the guys that make these really substandard drum patterns in brostep are the same ones that listen to a house track and only hear 4/4 kicks.

Fuck, you've been on my nerves lately, but this shit is too funny. To bust out a really old idiom, CHA CHING.

More comments to follow, just had to interject mid thread read.

Didn't think I even posted enough, or at least anything of consequence, to get one someone's nerves.

um....sorry?

lol reading back at that, I can't tell if that means you REALLY agree or REALLY disagree. And looking at my recent posts, I can't even really find anything that seems the least bit argumentative or controversial (apart from calling brostep music for idiots, but I actually like music for idiots).

so in other words...LET IT ALL OUT YOU BIG PUSSY

if you hold back I'll be forced to continue calling you names

To op, wtf is with this hetero hegemony? I'm sure many people would absolutely love to be in a room full of sweaty doods fist pumping.

To op's point, fuck yeah, on very many occasions (all in my recollection) brostep beats sound like the stilted first steps of a leggy prey animal, born to sprint and leap, but for the time being just aimlessly lurching from step to step. Granted, I've never written a good piece of music in my life, and I can nearly guarantee that I never will, but I am embarrassed for those brobeats. And on top of that disclaimer, I almost always have a kick on 1 and snare on 3, but take the opportunity to utilize all the space in between and after to create something interesting.

In regards to this Mason Dixon line that is being hacked through the forests of dubstep -
I can imagine a life without language, but for the time being that isn't happening. Language has proved to be a major evolutionary coup for our species. It allows us to understand what the fuck the other person is thinking. Like if it was said, "please remove that knife from my eye socket," because the speaker and presumably knife wielding listener have common shared experience that the word "knife" refers to the bladed pointy thing and "eye socket" refers to the place where the eyeball used to be, the knife wielder can reasonably infer that the speaker desires the removal of the bladed pointy thing from the place where his eyeball used to be.

To that end, nowadays when I say "dubstep" it is likely that the listener and I do not have a common shared experience. It is increasingly likely that the listener thinks I'm speaking of brostep. The word "dubstep" itself is beginning to fail to convey meaning (whether it ever did, don't get me started, but yes, I think it did).

The practical implication of this is that there are two forms of music here, and each deserves their own word. To all the "one love"ers who discourage subdivision and classification in general, I hear your point, and defer, to an extent, to your likely experience with jungle/dnb/drillnb/liquid/jump up, all that shit, maybe that is how a genre dies, okay.

But I do not see the utility in forcing two things that are not the same to be together. I offer my country, America, as an example. The founding principles of this country have always been less than firm. The fact that any consensus was reached in the first place is really pretty remarkable. But there has long been a division here. Immediately before our civil war, the division between north and south became manifest. It was clear that there were two totally different countries here. The president of the once united states decided that the states must be united, and engaged in our bloodiest war to force these two bodies together again. He was, unfortunately, successful. And now the world is forced to suffer America's atrocities because America's democratic governance is completely crippled by this unresolvable division.

So why not amicably agree to separate? Why must we be together? I'd go so far as to say take the name "dubstep", you can have it. Anything to distinguish what I make and like from your plodding beats and endless lightsabre battles.

Ha ha, that last part was a little bitchy, my bad, but seriously, I'll see you around. Peace.

what is this the new term for 'Midrange Cack' ? if so your complaints about it are quite saddening...

there's plenty of good modern electronic dubstep out there, and you can't find anything better to do than moan about those few producers who produce shit and those few dj's who mix shit tracks? Instead you should open up and start looking for some quality tunes.

i'll help you

@Dayn... aww, chin up man, I rinse the shit outta your tunes even if not everyone in this thread likes them... kinda glad, when I put on your tunes, I can scare off some of the snobs, haha.

But seriously...

Noways...

You willin to agree with me if we split, both sides could start to really advance individually?

cloak and dagger wrote:

abZ wrote:

grooki wrote:

Sharmaji wrote:
Ask yourself-- if you've got a gig with shirtless, sweaty folks going nuts, do you want it to be a guy fist pumping, or a girl sashaying?

exactly.

eerr, guys first pumping - derr!

Never really understood this argument. Maybe it's just the dumb broads in my region but usually the women have really bad taste in music. Who do you think buys Lady Gaga and Nickelback CD's? When it comes to dance music the cornier the better and they will show up on the dancefloor unfailingly when some dirty midrange is being played. In fact the few female dj's I know all play brostep. When I play deeper beleive me I get no love from the ladies but you know what? I listen to music because I like it not because chicks dig it. I am married anyway and while the eyecandy is nice it is an afterthought to my playlist.

haha I like this logic:

In defense of brostep:

1) girls have terrible taste in music
2) girls love brostep

I wasn't defending brostep mearly calling out bullshit. Maybe it isn't bullshit tho but it is in my reality. The girls here are lining up on the local message board and facebook to see boregore and excision. Ask these fine ladies if they know who Untold or Scuba is, most likely they will give you a glassy eyed stare. I am certain A or Boring could back this up from a regional standpoint.

Basic A wrote:@Dayn... aww, chin up man, I rinse the shit outta your tunes even if not everyone in this thread likes them... kinda glad, when I put on your tunes, I can scare off some of the snobs, haha.

But seriously...

Noways...

You willin to agree with me if we split, both sides could start to really advance individually?

They can advance as they please as it is. I don't think you understand how pointless coming up with subgenres is. It wouldn't change a god damn thing.

abZ wrote:
I wasn't defending brostep mearly calling out bullshit. Maybe it isn't bullshit tho but it is in my reality. The girls here are lining up on the local message board and facebook to see boregore and excision. Ask these fine ladies if they know who Untold or Scuba is, most likely they will give you a glassy eyed stare. I am certain A or Boring could back this up from a regional standpoint.

So, fuckin, true!!!

To bad, most of them, are skanky rave chicks, or dating cool people already.

Basic A wrote:

abZ wrote:
I wasn't defending brostep mearly calling out bullshit. Maybe it isn't bullshit tho but it is in my reality. The girls here are lining up on the local message board and facebook to see boregore and excision. Ask these fine ladies if they know who Untold or Scuba is, most likely they will give you a glassy eyed stare. I am certain A or Boring could back this up from a regional standpoint.

So, fuckin, true!!!

To bad, most of them, are skanky rave chicks, or dating cool people already.

Loool, last time I was at a dubstep night mostly "Brostep" was played, The dancefloor was filled with chicks (also dudes tho, but lets say, there weernt more dudes then chicks, equally spread) lol. Even one of my best friends (who is a chick) loves Datsik to death.

Honestly at this point it seems to me like it IS dubstep and brostep and there are just people not wanting to except that. All the 'I think dubstep and brostep are the same' 'If dubstep and brostep parted' comments from BOTH sides of this crack me up, seems like subs are here and noone realizes it cause brostep started as piss take word.

Basic A wrote:You willin to agree with me if we split, both sides could start to really advance individually?

Sure thing boss. Let the bros be bros, I don't really care what the bro's do. Brostep as a term, and brostep forum complete piss take, but why not own that. Start to use that forum in earnest. We'll send over all the how do I make transformer sounds people, during the transition.

nowaysj wrote:

Basic A wrote:You willin to agree with me if we split, both sides could start to really advance individually?

Sure thing boss. Let the bros be bros, I don't really care what the bro's do. Brostep as a term, and brostep forum complete piss take, but why not own that. Start to use that forum in earnest. We'll send over all the how do I make transformer sounds people, during the transition.

What would we call the other side?

Sisterstep?