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Re: Lady Gaga - Alejandro

Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 2:23 am
by Pistonsbeneath
please explain how i am gullible having watched something and drawn my own conclusions when YOU are the one that has adopted the most cliched stance and even latched on to someone mentioning reptilians like so many typical people do and then been like OMG HE SAD REPTALIENS!...you're gullible...maybe im mad but gullible would be entirely the wrong accusation to throw around

so urm...not really mate...

you hold your views out of convenience as far as i can see

Re: Lady Gaga - Alejandro

Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 2:25 am
by HamCrescendo
It's a very religious train of thought, and one that can't seem to be falsified. No matter what evidence put against these beliefs, people will just continue to engulf this evidence as part of the all encompassing and all involving conspiracy. The theory swallows the inconsistencies without actually addressing them.

When (or if) this occult fad dies out in popular music videos, will that be the elite getting bored of sending messages?

I'm not willing to swallow this shit because of a few creepy videos. Sorry man, best of luck to you, hell, I definately believe there's people at the top who are conspiring for power (not against us, though we may become "collateral") and to continue a family + friends reign in banking/whatever, but the occult shit? Nah man. Whats the point?

Re: Lady Gaga - Alejandro

Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 2:27 am
by wolf89
danrev wrote:It's a very religious train of thought, and one that can't seem to be falsified. No matter what evidence put against these beliefs, people will just continue to engulf this evidence as part of the all encompassing and all involving conspiracy. The theory swallows the inconsistencies without actually addressing them.

When (or if) this occult fad dies out in popular music videos, will that be the elite getting bored of sending messages?

I'm not willing to swallow this shit because of a few creepy videos. Sorry man, best of luck to you, hell, I definately believe there's people at the top who are conspiring for power (not against us, though we may become "collateral") and to continue a family + friends reign in banking/whatever, but the occult shit? Nah man. Whats the point?
Thank you for replying with exactly what I was trying to figure out how to word properly.

Re: Lady Gaga - Alejandro

Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 2:30 am
by Pistonsbeneath
so you dont believe in freemasonry then?

and the history behind the knights templar and its links to masons?

even if you dont believe in the illuminati man those above are in the official history books lol

and they have all kinds of occult shit entwined in the very backbone of their beliefs and they held more power than kings and popes..freemasons still exist and they still have grand masters and they dress up in occult clothing so maybe they still do some of those things???

you ever seen eyes wide shut?

oh and theres things like this :lol:


Re: Lady Gaga - Alejandro

Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 2:44 am
by wolf89
Pistonsbeneath wrote:so you dont believe in freemasonry then?

and the history behind the knights templar and its links to masons?

even i you dont believe in the illuminati man those above are in the official history books lol

and they have all kinds of occult shit entwined in the very backbone of their beliefs and they held more power than kings and popes..freemasons still exist and they still have grand masters and they dress up in occult clothing so maybe they still do some of those things???

you ever seen eyes wide shut?

oh and theres things like this :lol:

Video won't play, but I know who the Freemasons are (they offered to let my grandad join when he owned a massive building company but he declined.) I really don't think that any of it can be linked to a metal drummer making a video for a popstar. Just really you seem to put way more into than there is.

I mean couldn't the video director know what you know and make a video about it to shit people like you up

Re: Lady Gaga - Alejandro

Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 2:48 am
by Pistonsbeneath
i was talking to danrev and answering his points not yours...id already answered yours

the vid plays fine for me

Re: Lady Gaga - Alejandro

Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 2:50 am
by wolf89
Pistonsbeneath wrote:i was talking to danrev and answering his points not yours...id already answered yours

the vid plays fine for me
Audio glitches. and I agree with what danrev says.

and all you did was patronise me saying I'm avoiding the truth like I'm a fucking idiot.

Re: Lady Gaga - Alejandro

Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 2:53 am
by Pistonsbeneath
yeah well you did that to me as well :D

pointless going over old ground...wanted to debate with somebody else :D

going to bed anyway...shouldnt have any problems staying awake for my set tomorrow now :D

Re: Lady Gaga - Alejandro

Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 2:59 am
by wolf89
Pistonsbeneath wrote:yeah well you did that to me as well :D

pointless going over old ground...wanted to debate with somebody else :D

going to bed anyway...shouldnt have any problems staying awake for my set tomorrow now :D
You still sound like a massive arsehole now.


Not appreciating it to say the least

Re: Lady Gaga - Alejandro

Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 3:38 am
by bright maroon
weak

Re: Lady Gaga - Alejandro

Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 3:47 am
by _boring
lady gaga is the most confusing thing ever

Re: Lady Gaga - Alejandro

Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 9:04 am
by hackman
danrev, you need to learn what the definition of occult actually is

and so what if a heavy metal drummer directed the video? if anything, that adds more weight
seeing as a lot of metal peeps are satanists
and just cos he's named as the main director, doesn't mean the people financing it weren't like "you need to put this in"
your all so stupid to think the actually named person is the main input, it's always the financiers, in this case the label

Re: Lady Gaga - Alejandro

Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 9:07 am
by hackman
PEOPLE WHO ASSUME STUFF WHEN THEY HAVEN"T DONE ANY RESEARCH INTO CERTAIN AREAS


ARE MASSIVE MASSIVE stnuc


fucking arrogant, to think you know everything without having checked it out, prats

Re: Lady Gaga - Alejandro

Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 9:09 am
by hackman
wolf89 wrote:
Pistonsbeneath wrote:
wolf89 wrote:
Pistonsbeneath wrote:
and she turns into a reptilian at the end...did noone see that?
It's things like this that make me go

"oh yeah... right..."

Besides couldn't she actually just be more of an artist than people give her credit for?

I mean one of my mates who listens purely to black metal claims she's a genius and knows what she's doing and is fucking with commercial music/media and shit.
fucking say that all you like

watch the very end of the video and offer another explanation as to whats happening

if youre not gonna watch it then you dont have a right to an opinion

the end she clearly shifts and has scales...if youre just gonna focus on that then youre just another typical....ooo ooo reptilians lolololol idiot
firstly I have watched it

and secondly Reptilians? Seriously?
you don't know anything about reptilians do you?

Re: Lady Gaga - Alejandro

Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 9:12 am
by hackman
danrev wrote:When (or if) this occult fad dies out in popular music videos, will that be the elite getting bored of sending messages??
The word occult comes from the Latin word occultus (clandestine, hidden, secret), referring to "knowledge of the hidden". ...
see if you don't know what occult means, but you assume you do without checking it out
you obviously know nothing about this, as you assume you do, but you evidently haven't checked it out sufficiently

see the pattern?

Re: Lady Gaga - Alejandro

Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 9:13 am
by hackman
and if your directing videos for multi billion dollar record labels, i wonder to whom you sold your soul to to get there?
especially if your paying homage to them in your videos

Re: Lady Gaga - Alejandro

Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 9:49 am
by Sirius
damn i couldnt watch the clip... wayyyy to much gay shit!lol when i go to court wearing the freemason double compass symbol, do ya reckon i will get any less time?

why do some of yall care so much about the symbolism in this vid? whats wrong with reptilians, satanists, freemasons? take some more acid & get over it!!

the real prob with this song is its too fuckin catchy. & freemasons are the truest cats there are.. they are the ones who use logic & reason, where would science be without them??

Re: Lady Gaga - Alejandro

Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 10:30 am
by DRTY
Can you not just accept that she is a musician selling consumerism and materialism? She does it because it sells. She's not a reptile lol.

Reading an article about this.... one of it's proofs that this is about 'devil worshipping' is the fact the director is wearing this T-Shirt behind the scenes

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Yeah, that definitely means they're all worshipping the devil eh.

Also this lol. They reckon this shows 'she is bound by the illuminated'. Inferring that she is controlled by the illuminati.

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Guess it's all that electroshock and project monarch.

Here's a question for you, if she is supposedly some kind of ambassador of lesbian and gay rights, how does that fit in with her being controlled by the illuminati? Is that their message? Are they also big on feminism? Or maybe that's a front, a way to cover their tracks to make us distracted from the true 'meaning'.

Also, lets say she is controlled by the illuminati, and the illuminati does exist, and they're also controlling us directly and indirectly... How come they are so well known? If all you people know so much about them, why haven't you, and can't you, definitively proved their existence?

All the stuff about her 'covering' one eye is jokes too. Apparently to represent the 'occult' stuff you cover your left eye, Lady Gaga quite clearly does it to both, and even 'augments' one eye alot, which is very different to covering one eye. And even if she was covering one eye that literally means nothing, other than the fact she is covering here eye.

Surely if she has been brainwashed or mind controlled her family or friends might have noticed? Or maybe they're brain washed too? and their family and friends too, oh and theirs.

All this just seems like you misinterpreting things, you have an existing preconception on everything you watch thanks to things like this, so you see them to confirm your preconceptions and back up your view regardless of your preconceptions' accuracy. If you want to see and believe something, you will see, and you will believe it.

I'm not disagreeing with you for the sake of disagreeing with you btw, just the evidence for Lady Gaga beind mind controled or a reptile, isn't even slightly plausible.

Re: Lady Gaga - Alejandro

Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 10:39 am
by particle-jim
surely if everyone dismisses it then it's working, hidden in plain view man

Re: Lady Gaga - Alejandro

Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 10:52 am
by d'brickashaw ferguson
hackman wrote:PEOPLE WHO ASSUME STUFF WHEN THEY HAVEN"T DONE ANY RESEARCH INTO CERTAIN AREAS


ARE MASSIVE MASSIVE stnuc


fucking arrogant, to think you know everything without having checked it out, prats
If you even begin to believe completely illogical drivel about reptilians and the like then you have a TINY, TINY BRAIN.