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And coming on here insulting people and making huge generalisations isnt waste?

Arguing with people on the internet is a little bit like trying to wank yourself off with your feet.

So i'm off

Mash up the dance

Merkin wrote:
Arguing with people on the internet is a little bit like trying to wank yourself off with your feet.

So i'm off

Terrifically arousing yet not quite satisfying?!?

Terrifically arousing yet not quite satisfying?!?

LOL - you sound like someone who is a master of masturbatory techiniques involving feet

ssshhhhh!

numaestro wrote:I mean - phaps it was the london sound that copied him . phaps not?

LOL

that didn't even sound good.

Receiving a footjob while sucking mint cornetto ice cream from its undercone is not to be overlooked.

KION wrote:Receiving a footjob while sucking mint cornetto ice cream from its undercone is not to be overlooked.

talent

I remember someone saying something along the lines of "It's all good but waite until the Americans get there hands on it and make millions" Don't know if this is starting to happen but, i remember at the time thinking ye probably they will. At the end of the day there isn't anything that can be done about that or for that matter any thing that should be done. I take my idea's from many source as do lots of producers. Thats the way music evolves.

metalboxproducts wrote:I remember someone saying something along the lines of "It's all good but waite until the Americans get there hands on it and make millions" Don't know if this is starting to happen but, i remember at the time thinking ye probably they will.

what's sad is that although in the UK (and europe generally) we churn out cutting edge butt kicking producers that are sooooo on a par with the pharrels/timbas/sa-ras of this world ... everytime we get an 'urban' or pop act that we want to make cutting edge and cool (MIA (although i know switch is doing some bits with her) , Lady Sov etc) the majors troop off to the goddamm US and even tho the likes of maddona come to europe in search of fresh sounds, UK majors still look to the US and ignore homegrown talent ...

can u imagine a major UK pop act (a timberlake type) working with the UK equivalent of timbaland making a track like sexy back? never going to happen... about the closest we've had was richard x working with liberty x i guess..hmmm

why arent the majors bashing in DMZs door asking them to produce tracks for their new acts hmm? (maybe they are of course)

I had just written a long response to the whole generalization of americans, and how we treat music in general, but i realized i was kind of pleading to a lost cause.

Bottom line is, i am an american. i love dubstep. i produce dubstep. But even dubstep has its roots, and many of those can be found in "american" music, or black american music to be more exact...and you can go back even further than that. So lets stop the nitpicking.. we bring you things, you bring us things. Around and around it that is just how it goes, a nd has gone for quite some time. We dont want no war tonight!


ps

i wasnt t rying to stand up for timbaland. i know there is a measure of cockiness involved in producing, but after listening and reading his response to the situation involving the finnish producer.. well that was just garbage. He sounds like an ignorant bastard, and like he has absolutely now idea what is h appening with it. As if a lawyer was just feeding him brief summaries about the situation (which i am sure is happening).

so yeah thats all. btw this is my first post.

lich wrote:But even dubstep has its roots, and many of those can be found in "american" music, or black american music to be more exact...and you can go back even further than that. So lets stop the nitpicking.. we bring you things, you bring us things. Around and around it that is just how it goes, a nd has gone for quite some time. We dont want no war tonight!

for sure...all UK 'rave' or dance music of the last however many years is profoundly influenced and wouldnt even be here if it wern't for US music .. wether its the cut n paste of hip-hop or house and techno...kraftwerk wrote trans europe express but it was bambatta that turned it into a block rockin electro anthem

My sources tell me Timbaland is producing for the new Duran Duran album...

His new album drops march, lets see whats on there.

he's clearly biting dubstep, you'll all believe me on the tenth of march, when you see timbaland skanking round with sunglasses and a rasta wig to cover up his identity.

this is a silly argument imo. certain hiphop tracks have been produced with similar beats to dubstep before the term dubstep even came about. by using that kind of beat, taking influences from dub, using some electronicy or bit-crushed snares etc. that are already being used commonly in modern hiphop, you could easily come up with something that sounds dubstep-ish completely by accident. to think dubstep is so fresh that anything that sounds vaguely like it must be biting is silly, but i also agree with people saying if he is biting, he wouldn't admit it, cos he has a massive ego.

sick producer either way!

sibegg wrote:can u imagine a major UK pop act (a timberlake type) working with the UK equivalent of timbaland making a track like sexy back? never going to happen... about the closest we've had was richard x working with liberty x i guess..hmmm

why arent the majors bashing in DMZs door asking them to produce tracks for their new acts hmm? (maybe they are of course)

Future Cut produced some of the tracks on Lily Allen's album....Not quite Toasty producing for girls aloud but still a crossover.

threnody wrote:

sibegg wrote:can u imagine a major UK pop act (a timberlake type) working with the UK equivalent of timbaland making a track like sexy back? never going to happen... about the closest we've had was richard x working with liberty x i guess..hmmm

why arent the majors bashing in DMZs door asking them to produce tracks for their new acts hmm? (maybe they are of course)

Future Cut produced some of the tracks on Lily Allen's album....Not quite Toasty producing for girls aloud but still a crossover.

I was thinking about this last night and i've come to a possable answer. Could it be that US producers want to and are able to produce commercial tracks. Where as uk producers shy away from more commercial sound/styles? Not saying they aren't producers capable of doing incredable thing in the pop mediem, but that there is an unwillingness to do so. Add to this the fact , like Si said, there isn't the infrastructure or willingness on the majers to put money into the underground.

what do you reckon.

"...sick beat!
it's off his new album!
yeh his new album!
...
fuckin sick beat!
its off his new album!
fuckin sick beat man!.."

haha

didn't think it sounded like dubstep tho.
its an epic hip hop beat at 70ish bpm no?
not even any bass in it!

Parson wrote:again, nothin wrong with that

just admit it

people always askin him what grime or garage producers he's feeling or what dnb he likes and has always said he doesn't like uk dance music and doesn't listen to that shit

now people are going to start askin him what dubstep producers he's feelin and i guarantee he'll say he doesn't like dubstep and dpoesn't listen to it

That's just not true, I've heard him say in many interviews from way back that Jungle influenced him. I do not hear the Dubstep in that beat (a kind of beat he's done occasionally for years before Dubstep was in existence, let alone on the radar) - I hear that beat in Dubstep.

If there's influence flowing about (and it ought to be, because that's a good thing and not something to be ashamed of!), there's been way more influence coming from Timba TO Jungle/UKG/Grime/Dubstep etc. than from those styles to him anyway.