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hackman wrote:

hayze99 wrote:

hackman wrote:

hayze99 wrote:the guys would either be very rich, or very dead.

some of them are dead
some of them are rich
some of them are averagely well off
some of them are disinfo

you can't go round killing off every conspiracy theorist, otherwise you'd give a lot of weight to their ideas

I just think that's an excuse personally.

Think of Einstein + nuclear energy.

Actually, I'd be curious to know what these guy's credentials are.

so for example if david icke, alex jones, and others were to die suddenly in the next few weeks, you wouldn't sit up and go, hmmm maybe i should listen to what these guys are saying a bit more

I just don't think it would get to that level.

The scientific community is massive, and open minded. After many years and a lot of squabbling, relativity and quantum mechanics finally took hold - but who came up with it in the first place? Nobel prize winners. After that saga, we're all open minded to anything.

If these guys knew what they were talking about, they would have to send one single report out to a reputable university and they would get scooped up for research. So who do you trust? The reputable scientists who write journals, or a bunch of dudes at a fucking UFO conference? Seriously.

I have a feeling that all this bullshit is nothing but a delusion of grandeur. "I understand this theory, but the millions of trained scientists who reside on this planet don't."

In summary, if it's a good idea, it wouldn't be happening at a fucking UFO conference, it would be happening at a university, FOR FUCKS SAKE

David Icke has a huge catalogue of books, and DVDs, his own website which accepts 'donations' because he 'generously subsideses' the website. There's many affiliations he has selling other conspiracy stuff even training courses on how to make these waste videos. He's capitalizing on people gullible enough to believe his dross, and even trying to get them to do the same! That seems pretty low as someone who's trying to spread this terrible truth he claims to be real (and I'd imagine critisizes capitalism heavily). I'd be interested to know if he's deluded himself into believing the things he says, or whether he goes home laughing every day with your money.

Do the US have a website like Companies House? I'd love to see his accounts.

2manynoobs wrote:

lloydnoise wrote:If this guy has technology that could change the world, provide free energy, why is he unknown? I searched the guy, the only results about this guy (not the actor David Sereda) are a handful of his own sites and some very speculative threads in 'free energy' forums.
If he truly had invented something like that, you don't think he'd immediately become ridiculously famous overnight?

tesla found out about free energy in 1902..

and the story he tells about that dude in 1950'ish who made a little box no bigger than a shoebox that powered a whole house..


'They' do not encourage us to use free energy. And if you can't see why, you're a massive retard

I respect that you are really curious about this subject but 1 guy telling a story about another guy's invention, this is not proof. If you want to find out facts, learn how to properly research, even though most of these theories are 'fringe' in a scientific sense, they are still based on centuries of real science, learn more about it and learn to question more of what you see regardless of it's source.

Tesla was pure genius and came up with some AMAZING shit but he did get a bit loopy near the end of his life when he was coming up with 'death rays' (never built) and questioning relativity (which is a proven principle used across the world for satellites/GPS etc)

from Wiki (not saying this is proof but it sums it up imo) -

"In the years since his death, many of his innovations, theories and claims have been used, at times unsuitably and controversially, to support various fringe theories that are regarded as unscientific. Most of Tesla's own work conformed with the principles and methods accepted by science, but his extravagant personality and sometimes unrealistic claims, combined with his unquestionable genius, have made him a popular figure among fringe theorists and believers in conspiracies about "hidden knowledge". Even in Tesla's time, some believed that he was actually an angelic being from Venus sent to Earth to reveal scientific knowledge to humanity"

Zero point is insanely complex but pretty much amounts to space 'borrowing' energy from itself in the future (in the form of a particle/anti particle pair weirdly formed out of 'nothing') which 'payback' the energy almost instantly in an annihilation as they contact eachother. This happens all the time, even in a vacuum. I believe 1 day we will be able to harness this but not with a toroidal magnet wrapped pretty weave of copper wires ('with a super magic geometry!').
The video Parson posted originally is HORSE SHIT.

just watched it, thought it was good


so no-ones talking about how the ampere level was much higher round the diameter rather than through the coil?
instead mocking the level of science used
well magma, not everyone's head is as swollen as yours, and might not know about voltage and amperage
i'm sure if he was pitching to investors or respected scientists he'd up his game

Actually, I take my point back.

I just found an article which explains that Schrödinger first explained his quantum equations at a motherfucking ghost hunting expedition.

hayze99 wrote:In summary, if it's a good idea, it wouldn't be happening at a fucking UFO conference, it would be happening at a university, FOR FUCKS SAKE

errrrrrm no, cos if we're right, it's the last thing they'd put in university curriculums

DRTY wrote:David Icke has a huge catalogue of books, and DVDs, his own website which accepts 'donations' because he 'generously subsideses' the website. There's many affiliations he has selling other conspiracy stuff even training courses on how to make these waste videos. He's capitalizing on people gullible enough to believe his dross, and even trying to get them to do the same! That seems pretty low as someone who's trying to spread this terrible truth he claims to be real (and I'd imagine critisizes capitalism heavily). I'd be interested to know if he's deluded himself into believing the things he says, or whether he goes home laughing every day with your money.

Do the US have a website like Companies House? I'd love to see his accounts.

hey guess what drty, no-one is putting a gun to anyones head and telling them to give david icke money!

hackman wrote:

hayze99 wrote:In summary, if it's a good idea, it wouldn't be happening at a fucking UFO conference, it would be happening at a university, FOR FUCKS SAKE

errrrrrm no, cos if we're right, it's the last thing they'd put in university curriculums

Could you explain this a bit more?

I don't understand .

I'd guess because they wouldn't be able to keep us as slaves using their expensive electricity

hayze99 wrote:

hackman wrote:

hayze99 wrote:In summary, if it's a good idea, it wouldn't be happening at a fucking UFO conference, it would be happening at a university, FOR FUCKS SAKE

errrrrrm no, cos if we're right, it's the last thing they'd put in university curriculums

Could you explain this a bit more?

I don't understand .

try to not individually focus on all the topics we raise on here and see the wider picture
in summary, free energy does not make corporations lots of money and breaks monopolies

hackman wrote:

hayze99 wrote:

hackman wrote:

hayze99 wrote:In summary, if it's a good idea, it wouldn't be happening at a fucking UFO conference, it would be happening at a university, FOR FUCKS SAKE

errrrrrm no, cos if we're right, it's the last thing they'd put in university curriculums

Could you explain this a bit more?

I don't understand .

try to not individually focus on all the topics we raise on here and see the wider picture
in summary, free energy does not make corporations lots of money and breaks monopolies

But real scientists don't think like this.

hayze99 wrote:

hackman wrote:

hayze99 wrote:

hackman wrote:

hayze99 wrote:In summary, if it's a good idea, it wouldn't be happening at a fucking UFO conference, it would be happening at a university, FOR FUCKS SAKE

errrrrrm no, cos if we're right, it's the last thing they'd put in university curriculums

Could you explain this a bit more?

I don't understand .

try to not individually focus on all the topics we raise on here and see the wider picture
in summary, free energy does not make corporations lots of money and breaks monopolies

But real scientists don't think like this.

i spose tesla wasn't a real scientist?

hackman wrote:

hayze99 wrote:

hackman wrote:

hayze99 wrote:

hackman wrote:
errrrrrm no, cos if we're right, it's the last thing they'd put in university curriculums

Could you explain this a bit more?

I don't understand .

try to not individually focus on all the topics we raise on here and see the wider picture
in summary, free energy does not make corporations lots of money and breaks monopolies

But real scientists don't think like this.

i spose tesla wasn't a real scientist?

True.

And the point about water-run cars also works with this theory.

I still don't believe it though. Breakthroughs like this are not kept under the radar and out of the scientific community.

Haha captain derailer

Halaluminium first made those who ate it partially immune to the calendar's radiative properties, regardless of what the current month was. "January Rays" remained harmless until the formation of a terrible indie band who must've suffered radiation in the dawn of the reversal. Either that, or BANG! Aquafresh and it's flourine power crawled into that pineal like Steven Hawkins parking up on the toilet. Anyway, back to the slaughtered animals. The official answer for the actions that lead to this pollution remain largely unclassified, perhaps simply unidentified. This difference is not important so common consensus is to hybridise the two, then peel off the pectinous layer using Occam's Razor. Here's where it gets unfortunately sneaky: aluminium contaminated all livestock but the UK humane slaughter acts meant that non-halal food had to be stunned before kill. Here's the science: electrolytes coils coils electroytes sparks bunsen burnered which resulted in the non-halal food becmoning decontaminated (by the coils coils coils system). After months, suspicion arose: the female islamic people began sprouting oracle-typed silver beards (thank whichever god that the burkha was banned or maybe it'd never have been seen!). This lead to uncontrollable hormones in the population, until it was realised that the beards were infact aluminium beards, through the bizzarre event of a rust inspector dying in a thermite blaze. Due to the nature of these miraculous events, cryptozoology courses became the most popular choice for universities to offer. 'Regular humans' (who in this age are referred to as Kippers for their inability to wake up) where in a different situation, however. Crippled by years of calendar rays, defects soon became present. Kippers could not focus beyond electronic screens because of the static attractions, generating the strangest riots at times of a blackout. They were not of rampage, but solely feasting, for when power was on they could not serve any function. Zombie style instincts took people where memory lead them. Ironically, the BNP hooligans who went to feed at the ground zero mosque would be the start of a new world...

hayze99 wrote:Breakthroughs like this are not kept under the radar and out of the scientific community.

well all teslas shit has been kept under the radar for over 80 years, so i don't see why anything is different now

Let me know when this gets printed

hackman wrote:

hayze99 wrote:Breakthroughs like this are not kept under the radar and out of the scientific community.

well all teslas shit has been kept under the radar for over 80 years, so i don't see why anything is different now

Are we not using alot of Teslas ideas as we speak?

hackman wrote: so no-ones talking about how the ampere level was much higher round the diameter rather than through the coil?

There is a very simple reason that the current was greater around the coil, and thats because all that meter is showing is the sum of the currrents in all the wires within that loop. You pass one wire through that meter, you'll get a reading. You pass the same wire through it twice, you'll get twice that reading. This coil has several hundred turns on it, so you'll get several hundred times the reading. It's just electromagnetic induction at play, thats why he's using that type of ammeter and not one with probes.

If he was showing the power coming OUT of the coil then I'd believe it, and even then he's not showing voltage. For all we know all he's done is make a standard transformer. It doesn't harness anything, its just real science presented in a misleading way.

im tempted to post the video to the nerds over at the xkcd/smbc forums and see what happens, out of curiosity

knell wrote:im tempted to post the video to the nerds over at the xkcd/smbc forums and see what happens, out of curiosity

do it and report back, pronto!