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Re: America vs UK

Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2010 10:59 pm
by truefiktion
UK hands down...not being biased...we just make better dubstep. We stick to our roots and still try and keep the original dubstep sounds. i dont mind some american stuff but very little. Every american dubstep producer combined would still get shat on by Loefah from a great height :Q:

Re: America vs UK

Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2010 11:26 pm
by andy static
uk has loefah, mala, distance, pinch, luke envoy, vex'd

etcetera, etcetera

usa is good but doesn't have the original vibes in my opinion

Re: America vs UK

Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 12:21 am
by iamjoncannon
jamesgarfield wrote:
nah..I was putting on shows for about a year. quit because they became overrun by aforementioned druggy assholes and uninteresting local "talent"
lame. do you not produce?

Re: America vs UK

Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 12:33 am
by AllNightDayDream
truefiktion wrote:We stick to our roots and still try and keep the original dubstep sounds
And this makes it better, how?

Re: America vs UK

Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 12:37 am
by pkay
AllNightDayDream wrote:
truefiktion wrote:We stick to our roots and still try and keep the original dubstep sounds
And this makes it better, how?
especially since the roots of dubstep are

Dub- not from UK
Garage- not from UK
and
Hip Hop- Not from UK

Re: America vs UK

Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 12:39 am
by sigbowls
i think jungle came from the uk :n:

Re: America vs UK

Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 11:37 am
by truefiktion
pkay wrote:
AllNightDayDream wrote:
truefiktion wrote:We stick to our roots and still try and keep the original dubstep sounds
And this makes it better, how?
especially since the roots of dubstep are

Dub- not from UK
Garage- not from UK
and
Hip Hop- Not from UK
US garage, US dub and US hip hop didnt start dubstep that we started to know, it was UK garage and dub. if it was the US then people like Loefah, DMZ, Skream etc. would be american.

Re: America vs UK

Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 1:13 pm
by pkay
truefiktion wrote:
it was UK garage.

like i said hip hop and garage influenced :p

I'm being obnoxious on purpose.... my point was, the sound of dubstep at its core, is a very unique blend of a lot of different sounds from all over the world.... a big reason why it's appeal is so broad

Re: America vs UK

Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 1:37 pm
by topmo3
wehlfest wrote:
AllNightDayDream wrote:
pkay wrote:

http://nastyrumor.info/ (promoting mainly dubstep in STL)
can't believe they're actually using the term "brostep" to describe the music! :roll: and a label called "brotown"? :W:

as for the topic, i do prefer the uk scene, but that just might be because i don't know a whole lot of us artists, only starkey and flying lotus and i like them both a lot. still about the scene in the us comes to my mind shirtless douchebags with sunglasses on constantly wooing and girls covering their mouths (cuz iz soo filthy) while dancing like i saw in that borgore live video :u:

Re: America vs UK

Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 2:59 pm
by rob sparx
pkay wrote:
AllNightDayDream wrote:
truefiktion wrote:We stick to our roots and still try and keep the original dubstep sounds
And this makes it better, how?
especially since the roots of dubstep are

Dub- not from UK
Garage- not from UK
and
Hip Hop- Not from UK
DNB/Jungle a big part of it too but I agree its a mongrel genre owing a lot of influence to sounds with roots outside the uk - 2 step garage kind of uk but yea its still garage

I don't ever think "freezing" a genre at a stage of development is going to catch on plus whats the bet we'd be seeing US producers called out as bandwagon jumpers if they were copying the uk sound?

Re: America vs UK

Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 3:26 pm
by pkay
rob sparx wrote:
pkay wrote:
AllNightDayDream wrote:
truefiktion wrote:We stick to our roots and still try and keep the original dubstep sounds
And this makes it better, how?
especially since the roots of dubstep are

Dub- not from UK
Garage- not from UK
and
Hip Hop- Not from UK
DNB/Jungle a big part of it too but I agree its a mongrel genre owing a lot of influence to sounds with roots outside the uk - 2 step garage kind of uk but yea its still garage

I don't ever think "freezing" a genre at a stage of development is going to catch on plus whats the bet we'd be seeing US producers called out as bandwagon jumpers if they were copying the uk sound?

it's a catch 22. We're not the originators so if we take it a different direction we're making a mockery, if we're following the status quo we're jumping on the bandwagon.

it's never really the artists or producers that feel this way but more so overzealous fans who have some odd fear that if their scene becomes too big it will become out of touch for them.

Anyone limiting themselves based off country is cheating themselves.

Re: America vs UK

Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 3:43 pm
by hellfire machina
pkay wrote:
rob sparx wrote:
pkay wrote:
AllNightDayDream wrote:
truefiktion wrote:We stick to our roots and still try and keep the original dubstep sounds
And this makes it better, how?
especially since the roots of dubstep are

Dub- not from UK
Garage- not from UK
and
Hip Hop- Not from UK
DNB/Jungle a big part of it too but I agree its a mongrel genre owing a lot of influence to sounds with roots outside the uk - 2 step garage kind of uk but yea its still garage

I don't ever think "freezing" a genre at a stage of development is going to catch on plus whats the bet we'd be seeing US producers called out as bandwagon jumpers if they were copying the uk sound?
it's a catch 22. We're not the originators so if we take it a different direction we're making a mockery, if we're following the status quo we're jumping on the bandwagon.

it's never really the artists or producers that feel this way but more so overzealous fans who have some odd fear that if their scene becomes too big it will become out of touch for them.

Anyone limiting themselves based off country is cheating themselves.

What he said ^ and I'm a South Londoner living in New York. The scene here in America is amazing, all styles have their strongholds and plenty of parties that fuse them all together. To say the scene in the uk is bigger is a little ridiculous too, if you added up all the people in attendance at dubstep parties this weekend, the US would win hands down. The place is huge, you don't even need to do the math it's just common sense. Music has no border patrol, ,it doesn't matter where it's from if it's proper it's proper, one worldwide movement will always be stronger than warring factions.

my 2 cents/pennys

Re: America vs UK

Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 4:15 pm
by symmetricalsounds
hellfire machina wrote:
What he said ^ and I'm a South Londoner living in New York. The scene here in America is amazing, all styles have their strongholds and plenty of parties that fuse them all together. To say the scene in the uk is bigger is a little ridiculous too, if you added up all the people in attendance at dubstep parties this weekend, the US would win hands down. The place is huge, you don't even need to do the math it's just common sense. Music has no border patrol, ,it doesn't matter where it's from if it's proper it's proper, one worldwide movement will always be stronger than warring factions.

my 2 cents/pennys
time to chuck in the classic

"it's not where you're from it's where you're at"

and yes i do know it was an american that said that :wink:

Re: America vs UK

Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 4:45 pm
by seckle
So fucking tired of threads like this. People need to stop thinking of music in some us against them comparison war. Reppin your city's sound is one thing, but trying to say one country sounds like this, and another country sounds like that....shows that you dont know what youre talking about.

There is no usa vs uk. theres only internet hot air chat. Its not where youre from its.....

Re: America vs UK

Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 4:54 pm
by seckle
and people that live in some beatport top ten dubstep bubble, need to open their vision to the fact that there are dozens of producers (britons, americans, europeans, canadians, japanese, etc) making all kinds of dubstep outside of biggest drop biggest brutal electro patch, biggest hype music.

Re: America vs UK

Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 4:55 pm
by DZA
New Zealand
Mt Eden
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Re: America vs UK

Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 5:34 pm
by 1017_duck
pkay wrote:it's a catch 22. We're not the originators so if we take it a different direction we're making a mockery, if we're following the status quo we're jumping on the bandwagon.

it's never really the artists or producers that feel this way but more so overzealous fans who have some odd fear that if their scene becomes too big it will become out of touch for them.

Anyone limiting themselves based off country is cheating themselves.
100%, couldn't agree more. close minded folk eh?

Re: America vs UK

Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 5:37 pm
by 1017_duck
truefiktion wrote:UK hands down...not being biased...we just make better dubstep. We stick to our roots and still try and keep the original dubstep sounds. i dont mind some american stuff but very little. Every american dubstep producer combined would still get shat on by Loefah from a great height :Q:
except you are being completely biased.

Re: America vs UK

Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 7:17 pm
by MrWobbles
I feel like there is good and bad to both sides, but I rather not judge a artist based on location. (as others have said)

Re: America vs UK

Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 7:26 pm
by pkay
MrWobbles wrote:I feel like there is good and bad to both sides, but I rather not judge a artist based on location. (as others have said)

good first post!