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gnome wrote:

capo ultra wrote:

gnome wrote:Coogan's just another white man fighting the racism battle. Which isn't his battle, as he, like most white western people has never experienced racism properly. I would be able to tak his points had they been from a Mexican. Rather than a man in his castle pointing out how other people are doing wrong to other people. Quit whinging white man.

lol as a comedian I am quite sure Steve Coogan is perfectly qualified to speak about how funny or unfunny certain 'jokes' are tbf

Yeah he is a comedian. But he ain't no mexican. He seems to be offended by what they have said...but why? Because he likes to think himself as some sort of good person who is not rascist and he must show this by his statements. Seems silly considering all white people have that deep inside feeling of superiority over other races. Althought not one white man will admit it...Will you?

thats just a stupid statement! he may not be offended by it, but he can clearly see thats its wrong and shouldnt be said. but even if he is offended whats wrong with that? if you were being battered, and there were loads of people around to see, would you want some help? probably, but why should they help then, they arent the ones being battered so why should they care, so you can just be left to get mashed up.

the show is shit anyway, it used to be good back in the day they tested ordinary cars that people could afford and it was interesting as you could get good reviews on what car to get. then it had loads of money thrown at it, and they started to test all the fancy cars, and i liked it then too, get to see them rag some sick cars and then chat about it and shit, but now its gone on for too long, i hate all 3 of them, they are all twats and they just do stupid little challenges that just about have some content about cars, and then clarkson wins.

bahaha, the views on the stewart lee clips about top gear have spiked.
wonder if they've been linked/embedded on news sites or something

Hammond (left): …Cars reflect national characteristics, don't they, so German cars are very well built and ruthlessly efficient

a Mexican car's just going to be lazy, feckless, flatulent, overweight... (laughter) leaning against a fence asleep, looking at a cactus, with a blanket with a hole in the middle as a coat.

Interesting.

^^
if you read what Coogan wrote he explains that there is in his eyes at least a big difference between a genuine comedian and what Top Gear does

you might not agree but i think he has a point.. mainly being what Stewart Lee is doing is not picking on someone or something that is meant to draw popular hatred. what Stewart Lee does and has been doing for a long time is pick a subject matter and by the way he works the show and the crowd, divide the opinions of the crowd and attempt to win them back by the end of the night, so with Top Gear he doesn't genuinely despise them that much (he might do, but for the purpose of the show it could be anyone) but he picks them cos they're popular, divides the crowd between agreeing with him and not agreeing with him then does this with other things during the show (Magners Cider) then attempts to win the audience round at the end

there's a difference between putting time and work, into a stage craft and just having shit craic.

noam wrote:shit craic.

haha an astute summary of jeremy clarkson

i want to say something about the word banter and his association with it but even thinking about it makes me shiver with disgust

shit banter

Fuck Top Gear.

/Intelligent input.

mr hyde wrote:Don't top gear do this every year mid series to get a bit of extra promotion?

your probably right lol

but i could give a shit cos i dont watch it anyway, as long as they're about i have something focus my anger on

gnome wrote:Coogan's just another white man fighting the racism battle. Which isn't his battle....

When the sizan came for the communists,
I remained silent;
I was not a communist.

When they locked up the social democrats,
I remained silent;
I was not a social democrat.

When they came for the trade unionists,
I did not speak out;
I was not a trade unionist.

When they came for the Jews,
I remained silent;
I wasn't a Jew.

When they came for me,
there was no one left to speak out.

cityzen wrote: When the sizan came for the communists,
I remained silent;
I was not a communist.

When they locked up the social democrats,
I remained silent;
I was not a social democrat.

When they came for the trade unionists,
I did not speak out;
I was not a trade unionist.

When they came for the Jews,
I remained silent;
I wasn't a Jew.

When they came for me,
there was no one left to speak out.

This is amazing. Where is it from/Who was it by if you dont mind me asking?

Cheers

defoxster wrote:This is amazing. Where is it from/Who was it by if you dont mind me asking?

Cheers

one of my faves too

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_they_came%E2%80%A6

wub wrote:

hackman wrote: clarkson "jokes" all the time, he's not joking, he's a casual racist

Fully agree with this. I got a "World According To Clarkson" book a couple of years back, and the man just comes across as an angry bigot with a massive insecurity complex.

He's a tory, he has a column in the Sun that his mate Richard Little John (one of the most homophobic, right wingers in print in british papers) got him. He's mates with Richard Fucking Little John!!! That's like Maggie being friendly with Augusto Pinochet!

mr hyde wrote:They are dicks, but Stewart lee is still making money and getting laughs by taking the piss of people, all be it ironically to make a point....just depends where you draw the line of what is ironic

Stewart Lee firstly is doing it in that video as a piss take of their style

secondly if you watch his other stuff he isn't just trying to be controversial like that the whole time. If he's taking the piss out of anything it's done with intelligence or purpose. It's never a cheap jab at someone to further his career.

wolf89 wrote:

mr hyde wrote:They are dicks, but Stewart lee is still making money and getting laughs by taking the piss of people, all be it ironically to make a point....just depends where you draw the line of what is ironic

Stewart Lee firstly is doing it in that video as a piss take of their style

secondly if you watch his other stuff he isn't just trying to be controversial like that the whole time. If he's taking the piss out of anything it's done with intelligence and purpose. It's never a cheap jab at someone to further his career.

Fixed

Took me ages to figure what you'd actually changed. haha

Coogan = <3

I'm not in the business of wishing death on people so instead... I hope they all get their licenses revoked or half-drown in a melted glacier.

wolf89 wrote:Took me ages to figure what you'd actually changed. haha

what did he change

Motorway to Roswell wrote:

wolf89 wrote:

mr hyde wrote:They are dicks, but Stewart lee is still making money and getting laughs by taking the piss of people, all be it ironically to make a point....just depends where you draw the line of what is ironic

Stewart Lee firstly is doing it in that video as a piss take of their style

secondly if you watch his other stuff he isn't just trying to be controversial like that the whole time. If he's taking the piss out of anything it's done with intelligence and purpose. It's never a cheap jab at someone to further his career.

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