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jack sparrow1 wrote:pokes is a badman on decks

spliff smokin-plastic chuckin-beer swiggin-banter givin slenger

thats talent

Chef wrote:DJing for me is an art, beat matching well for two hours without hardly and slips isn't easy and isn't something you learn overnight.

Being a good DJ you need to know your tunes inside and out, and know which tunes go well toghether.

For me selection =65% Skills on the decks = 35% It's like playing a card game, you can have all the best cards but if don't play them right they don't amount to nothing.

I don't wanna hear man clanging down the dance, no matter how good the tunes are.
Many DJ's on the board will probably now how its feel to hear a train wreck mix, it fcuking hurts because my brain is trying to decipher the beats, constantly working out what's wrong with the mix.

Don't get me wrong all DJ's like me and N-Type, Hatcha etc crunch every now and again, but there's a difference between a lil slip/crunch and full blown clang a bang session.
We have to take the risk in order to pull of fast mixes and double drops quickly but when someones been cueing up the tunes for 2/3 minutes and it's still loose like water molecules it doesn't impress me.

I think being a DJ you need to bring people on a journey, with High's and low's, not just one level ------------------- all the way through.

there's no skill involved really when you can see the bpm and all you gotta do is move the pitch until both cd decks are displaying the same bpm.

Put them same dj's in a dance with two 1210's and lets see what happens.

BLK PLAGUE wrote:

Chef wrote:DJing for me is an art, beat matching well for two hours without hardly and slips isn't easy and isn't something you learn overnight.

Being a good DJ you need to know your tunes inside and out, and know which tunes go well toghether.

For me selection =65% Skills on the decks = 35% It's like playing a card game, you can have all the best cards but if don't play them right they don't amount to nothing.

I don't wanna hear man clanging down the dance, no matter how good the tunes are.
Many DJ's on the board will probably now how its feel to hear a train wreck mix, it fcuking hurts because my brain is trying to decipher the beats, constantly working out what's wrong with the mix.

Don't get me wrong all DJ's like me and N-Type, Hatcha etc crunch every now and again, but there's a difference between a lil slip/crunch and full blown clang a bang session.
We have to take the risk in order to pull of fast mixes and double drops quickly but when someones been cueing up the tunes for 2/3 minutes and it's still loose like water molecules it doesn't impress me.

I think being a DJ you need to bring people on a journey, with High's and low's, not just one level ------------------- all the way through.

there's no skill involved really when you can see the bpm and all you gotta do is move the pitch until both cd decks are displaying the same bpm.

Put them same dj's in a dance with two 1210's and lets see what happens.

D'you get me?!

howstrange wrote:

BLK PLAGUE wrote:

Chef wrote:DJing for me is an art, beat matching well for two hours without hardly and slips isn't easy and isn't something you learn overnight.

Being a good DJ you need to know your tunes inside and out, and know which tunes go well toghether.

For me selection =65% Skills on the decks = 35% It's like playing a card game, you can have all the best cards but if don't play them right they don't amount to nothing.

I don't wanna hear man clanging down the dance, no matter how good the tunes are.
Many DJ's on the board will probably now how its feel to hear a train wreck mix, it fcuking hurts because my brain is trying to decipher the beats, constantly working out what's wrong with the mix.

Don't get me wrong all DJ's like me and N-Type, Hatcha etc crunch every now and again, but there's a difference between a lil slip/crunch and full blown clang a bang session.
We have to take the risk in order to pull of fast mixes and double drops quickly but when someones been cueing up the tunes for 2/3 minutes and it's still loose like water molecules it doesn't impress me.

I think being a DJ you need to bring people on a journey, with High's and low's, not just one level ------------------- all the way through.

there's no skill involved really when you can see the bpm and all you gotta do is move the pitch until both cd decks are displaying the same bpm.

Put them same dj's in a dance with two 1210's and lets see what happens.

D'you get me?!

DJing to me is an art definitely but its spoken about here like a science. What's the art in beatmatching? There is no creative output in matching beats. It's an important aspect for sure but it has nothing to do with the art of DJing, which is about selection, order and flow of tunes and mixing (EQing, levels, cutting etc).

Beatmatching on CDs surely isnt as simple as matching two numbers - CDJs only show the nearest bpm right? So two tunes displaying 144bpm wont necessarily be beatmatched at all. But anyway its a moot point.

It confuses me when people say that those who mix on PCs or pre pitched CDs or whatever are cheating. How can you "cheat" in an artform like music??

Chef you said it when you talked about bringing people on a journey with highs and lows.. i agree with that. But there is skill in mixing without beatmatching and that is... bringing people on a journey with highs and lows.

auralassassin wrote:

UFO over easy wrote:PS: auralassassin, why'd you bother coming back if you were just going to kick up a fuss again?

I didn't leave, I was in a coma. So it's not really coming back, is it... I can just finally sit upright at a desk again. And how the fuck is posting a thread about big upping the hottest DJ's stirring up shit?

Well, thats because people lack a damn brain--and can't keep it from turning into a discussion about something it wasn't. That type of shit pisses me off. I don't enter a thread about Grime and start talking about trance. I don't go into threads about track selection and talk about technical DJ skills... RUDE. and not in a cool way, mate.

Chef wrote:

howstrange wrote:

BLK PLAGUE wrote:

Chef wrote:DJing for me is an art, beat matching well for two hours without hardly and slips isn't easy and isn't something you learn overnight.

Being a good DJ you need to know your tunes inside and out, and know which tunes go well toghether.

For me selection =65% Skills on the decks = 35% It's like playing a card game, you can have all the best cards but if don't play them right they don't amount to nothing.

I don't wanna hear man clanging down the dance, no matter how good the tunes are.
Many DJ's on the board will probably now how its feel to hear a train wreck mix, it fcuking hurts because my brain is trying to decipher the beats, constantly working out what's wrong with the mix.

Don't get me wrong all DJ's like me and N-Type, Hatcha etc crunch every now and again, but there's a difference between a lil slip/crunch and full blown clang a bang session.
We have to take the risk in order to pull of fast mixes and double drops quickly but when someones been cueing up the tunes for 2/3 minutes and it's still loose like water molecules it doesn't impress me.

I think being a DJ you need to bring people on a journey, with High's and low's, not just one level ------------------- all the way through.

there's no skill involved really when you can see the bpm and all you gotta do is move the pitch until both cd decks are displaying the same bpm.

Put them same dj's in a dance with two 1210's and lets see what happens.

D'you get me?!

DJing to me is an art definitely but its spoken about here like a science. What's the art in beatmatching? There is no creative output in matching beats. It's an important aspect for sure but it has nothing to do with the art of DJing, which is about selection, order and flow of tunes and mixing (EQing, levels, cutting etc).

Beatmatching on CDs surely isnt as simple as matching two numbers - CDJs only show the nearest bpm right? So two tunes displaying 144bpm wont necessarily be beatmatched at all. But anyway its a moot point.

It confuses me when people say that those who mix on PCs or pre pitched CDs or whatever are cheating. How can you "cheat" in an artform like music??

Chef you said it when you talked about bringing people on a journey with highs and lows.. i agree with that. But there is skill in mixing without beatmatching and that is... bringing people on a journey with highs and lows.

you said.... DJing to me is an art definitely... obiously beat matching is a part of that art aint it.

im on rinse now, shud i have just run each tune from the edge if beat matching dont accountf or much.

if you think using pre pitch cds aint cheating then boy....

Diablo wrote:LMAO!!!!!

Sorry to veer off-topic but,

The man said he was in a coma but no one asks what happened or if he is ok!!!

If that isn't an indication of how much love the forum has for Mr. Assassin. I don't know what is!!!

By the way, was that "coma" in a county or state facility????

Much Love Bro

the offical dubstep fan wrote:LUKE.ENVOY

Chef wrote:Yeah you still gotta use your ears, but not as much.

For example, lets take the pioneer cd decks we got up Rinse, I know for a fact the bpms are accurate enough.
I've seen dj's use NO headphones, just adjust the bpms until they matched without even hitting play. When the bpms were sync my man just hit play on the first beat and brought the tune in.....
That's what i'm talking about, no headphones and no skill.

auralassassin wrote:

Chef wrote:Yeah you still gotta use your ears, but not as much.

For example, lets take the pioneer cd decks we got up Rinse, I know for a fact the bpms are accurate enough.
I've seen dj's use NO headphones, just adjust the bpms until they matched without even hitting play. When the bpms were sync my man just hit play on the first beat and brought the tune in.....
That's what i'm talking about, no headphones and no skill.

Only if the tunes are all in the same speed and tempo and key... those are edits of tunes... the only convenience of CDJ's are the tables that you can sample with and chop the beats. More or less, an effect.

Any good mixer will have that anyway.. Still takes skills. RJD2 played on 6 turntables(vinyl) with no headphones... all 45's and tore the shit up. I can assure you, I personally witnessed this--all he had was stickers on his records to show where the breaks were on there.

SKILLS.

dj phonetic wrote:What theu do is studied, he knows what hes going to do, this kind of mixing is a routine. Like DMC/ITF championships or like lesson 5, 6,... of shadow and cut chemist. Its not like an ordinary dj.




Bunzero is very technically, good dj, good selection,....

auralassassin wrote: Really quite absurd, ain't it?

Parson wrote:dj p who used to tour with z-trip can do all those crazy live mashup mixes and scratch and do tricks and then go get respect in the bboy circle