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pompende wrote:and for the fifth time: its not about what i do or don't like. its a matter of terminology.

dubstep emerged as a group of music with no specific genreic identifiers. its constituents were defined more by intention and cultural proximity than a specific rhythmic structure or identifiable tag.

compare this to descriptors like donk house or jackin house which are quite strict and refer to specific sounds. (ie the donk or jazz w/ rap acapellas)

But why don't just ignore it? Simple as that.
I think you are thinking too much 'genre' and not enough 'music', you should try the opposite sometimes... Feels good man

pompende wrote:^what are you on about?

I don't even know D;

i guess a lot of people got wrapped up in (myself included) being a part of dubstep music and culture, because it was so different and good. and now that it's gettin huge and is now associated, by mass amounts of people, with power tool noises, 59/50 fitted caps, ugly shoes, glowsticks, offensive youtube comments, and PRO NAILS... it's kind of like "hey, that was mine, give it back." when in actuality, we shouldn't even really want that back because it sucks. an entity will be whatever the majority of people associate it with. i mean most people who think datsik is the best producer don't even know or care about digital mystikz, nor would they even like the music if they heard it. it's like trying to convince a colorblind person who doesn't know that they are colorblind that what they see as red is really green... it's just not gonna happen.

^ insightful! good points

ATTENTION:
IF YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THIS WOBBLE IS ABOUT, GET YOUR BOOTY TO CAMP BISCO AND FIND OUT. This year is seriously going to be off the chain. Dirty, dirty dubstep style.
Head over to the facebook event to check out the line up announced so far, including Break Science with RJD2 (SO PUMPED FOR THIS COLLABO!!), Rusko, Two Fresh, Beats Antique and the place I want to hit up at least four times--the Mad Decent Tropical Tent...
http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=125258317536299
I want to experience a million people at bisco, sloppy, sweaty and funky as hellll!

-L

thefrodown wrote:ATTENTION:
IF YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THIS WOBBLE IS ABOUT, GET YOUR BOOTY TO CAMP BISCO AND FIND OUT. This year is seriously going to be off the chain. Dirty, dirty dubstep style.
Head over to the facebook event to check out the line up announced so far, including Break Science with RJD2 (SO PUMPED FOR THIS COLLABO!!), Rusko, Two Fresh, Beats Antique and the place I want to hit up at least four times--the Mad Decent Tropical Tent...
http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=125258317536299
I want to experience a million people at bisco, sloppy, sweaty and funky as hellll!

-L

I was laughing until I watched the link

Edit: There's actually Bluetech

Funny way to spam an event in the main forum... Sloppy & sweaty?

What the hell... I dunno what the deal is w that event, but can't you recognize an appropriate place to plug ur events?

Skrillex has actually made a good tune.

kingGhost wrote:i guess a lot of people got wrapped up in (myself included) being a part of dubstep music and culture, because it was so different and good. and now that it's gettin huge and is now associated, by mass amounts of people, with power tool noises, 59/50 fitted caps, ugly shoes, glowsticks, offensive youtube comments, and PRO NAILS... it's kind of like "hey, that was mine, give it back." when in actuality, we shouldn't even really want that back because it sucks. an entity will be whatever the majority of people associate it with. i mean most people who think datsik is the best producer don't even know or care about digital mystikz, nor would they even like the music if they heard it. it's like trying to convince a colorblind person who doesn't know that they are colorblind that what they see as red is really green... it's just not gonna happen.

i think this really gets at the heart of the issue. arguing over semantics about what is or isn't worthy of the name "dubstep" is just pointless, IMO. In general I don't concern myself much at all with genres/subgenres - when I'm talking about a style of music that I like, I find it's better to just mention examples of artists that exemplify that style. Plus, for better or worse culture is sort of organically democratic... if 10 million people think Datsik is dubstep, and 500,000 people think DMZ is dubstep, no amount of moaning about it on the internet is going to change the popular perception that dubstep = Datsik.

Personally, I relish the diversity that can fall under the label "dubstep", because IMO the less "rules" there are directing what music should or should not be, the more room there is for creativity and innovation. That being said, I totally understand peoples frustrations when the scene that they know and love mutates into something they don't like. But that's the problem with trying to "own" a scene like that, scenes always evolve and change, and sometimes in ways that you don't like. I don't think complaining about it, and hating on the artists/DJs/fans will ever improve the situation. If you want the scene to be different than it is, work to create those positive changes by writing tunes, throwing shows, recording mixes, starting a label, etc.

that camp bisco plug makes me sad..i like the biscuits why did you have to make me feel like a cock by association. have some sense you hippie!

edit: on topic, this is just something you're gonna have to let go. there's no reversing it. it doesn't even really matter. I empathize your frustration to an extent..but it's been said time and again, the people you're really trying to get at just don't care.



fuck it doe..

Icey wrote:

Skrillex has actually made a good tune.

false, this shit is terrible

kingGhost wrote:

Icey wrote:

Skrillex has actually made a good tune.

false, this shit is terrible

Go ahead and listen to his other tracks if you want

Icey wrote:

kingGhost wrote:

Icey wrote:

Skrillex has actually made a good tune.

false, this shit is terrible

Go ahead and listen to his other tracks if you want

No wobble in a song doesn't necessarily means it's quality... I found this boring tbh

Icey wrote:

kingGhost wrote:

Icey wrote:

Skrillex has actually made a good tune.

false, this shit is terrible

Go ahead and listen to his other tracks if you want

you act as if i have to listen to him at all. it's terrible.

tacospheros wrote:people seem to forget around 2005 , the majority of people HATED "dubstep" and said things like "This shit is boring !" "It's just slowed down DNB " etc ....


and then lo and behold its 2011 and everyones making dubstep but the majority of it actually became slowed down dnb . and the people saying they hated it are all headbanging in a mosh pit to midrange . it's hilarious really

Agreed (for once )

I used to take my mates to DMZ when it was held at 3rd bass (next to the Mass) n they all ran into the Mass where DnB was playing... Now these same people I used to take are all over Dubstep - most amusing imo!

And SD4,

I know what your saying but all I'm trying to point out is that music isnt static, its gonna change and hanging onto 2006 dreams isnt the best mindset! i mean as a poster rightly pointed out, is Swamp 81 stuff really Dubstep? So many artist who are named as Dubstep dont sound like the Dubstep people are hanging onto so if you can call 130bmp funky sounds stuff Dubstep then why on earth cant you call the hyped stuff Dubstep? If there is room for one, theres room for more! I can see why hype fans always say the deeper crowd just hate it cos its popular. Cos to be fair it does seem to be only that crowd thats being told "ITS NOT DUBSTEP" You even have a sticky on the forum with Youtube vids of old Dubstep tunes and saying this si Dubstep... We sadly it isnt anymore so I'd say its time for everyone to just put up or shut up! Whats the problem?!

if i don't like it, it's not dubstep!

Skream's airin this thread out on twitter at the mo. This really aint goin anywhere.

hello there skream twitter tip riders! thread over.