rorz9992 wrote:Basically what happened is 99% of the people on here blindly bum a few different producers etc, one of whom is Loefah.
Loefah started putting out more house inspired stuff on Swamp and the average user on here was like "this is fiyah! this is my 2010 tip" (possibly without even hearing it first).
So then they bought up all the Boddika stuff etc, but of course had to also buy more stuff to mix with it, so bought some slightly older releases on Hessle and so on (when these were originally released they were probably blissfully unaware stuff like this existed).
This would explain it's recent popularity, coupled with the fact the 140bpm halfstep stuff is declining in popularity due to being done to death by everyone for a few years, also nobody has an attention span long enough these days to not get bored by something very quickly, before needing something new to get into.
Re: How did we get from Dubstep to House?
Posted: Thu May 12, 2011 5:32 pm
by prisoner
that's got to be one of the most bitter, cynical posts i've ever read on this forum!
wow.
Re: How did we get from Dubstep to House?
Posted: Thu May 12, 2011 6:28 pm
by limbo
joeki wrote:I like the new LV album.
I did not know such a thing existed, thanks for this!
Re: How did we get from Dubstep to House?
Posted: Thu May 12, 2011 9:34 pm
by capo ultra
Shum wrote:
capo ultra wrote:House -> Garage -> Dubstep -> Garage -> House
Nabbing this for my sig.
wins all round
Re: How did we get from Dubstep to House?
Posted: Thu May 12, 2011 9:37 pm
by capo ultra
rorz9992 wrote:Basically what happened is 99% of the people on here blindly bum a few different producers etc, one of whom is Loefah.
Loefah started putting out more house inspired stuff on Swamp and the average user on here was like "this is fiyah! this is my 2010 tip" (possibly without even hearing it first).
So then they bought up all the Boddika stuff etc, but of course had to also buy more stuff to mix with it, so bought some slightly older releases on Hessle and so on (when these were originally released they were probably blissfully unaware stuff like this existed).
This would explain it's recent popularity, coupled with the fact the 140bpm halfstep stuff is declining in popularity due to being done to death by everyone for a few years, also nobody has an attention span long enough these days to not get bored by something very quickly, before needing something new to get into.
except Loefah and Swamp are on more of a techno/electro tip. There was copious interviews with Loefah stating that he liked the change up in tempo but not the house element
Good try though
Re: How did we get from Dubstep to House?
Posted: Thu May 12, 2011 11:11 pm
by Pada
I think it's funny how people are saying "OMG WHAT OTHER MUSIC SOUNDS LIKE BODDIKA"
when it's clearly sounds like loads of Underground Resistance et al.
how certain house tunes made by dubstep producers are receiving praise all round but the same people ignore Trax, UR, Strictly Rhythm etc. When I first heard new joy o/rama/swamp stuff I was all over it then I realised I can get strictly rhythm records for £0.59 on discogs and just started buying them instead haha!
BUT I don't think it's blind fanboyism or anything like that - just people aren't aware of that music a lot of the time.
Re: How did we get from Dubstep to House?
Posted: Thu May 12, 2011 11:15 pm
by Shum
(Pada) wrote:
...when it's clearly sounds like loads of Underground Resistance et al.
Exactly why I love this sound so much, with the added benefit of modern production techniques. MOAR BASS.
Re: How did we get from Dubstep to House?
Posted: Thu May 12, 2011 11:26 pm
by prisoner
it's kinda future retro-ism, isn't it?
also given the age of most new dubstep listeners and given their general geographic location (UK) most not knowing about US labels that were at their prime nearly 20 years ago (when they were infants) it's not surprising they don't know much about UR et all.
Re: How did we get from Dubstep to House?
Posted: Thu May 12, 2011 11:29 pm
by Sheff
rorz999999999992 you ever thought that people may just genuinally like this sound but wouldnt have found out about it if the dubstep producers havent been pushing it?
what a fucking lame way of looking at things
Re: How did we get from Dubstep to House?
Posted: Fri May 13, 2011 1:04 am
by TomatoAndBasil
rorz9992 wrote:Basically what happened is 99% of the people on here blindly bum a few different producers etc, one of whom is Loefah.
I'm just trying to think how you could 'blindly bum' a producer . Would you just not listen to the music? Or not form any opinion?
prisoner wrote:also given the age of most new dubstep listeners and given their general geographic location (UK) most not knowing about US labels that were at their prime nearly 20 years ago (when they were infants) it's not surprising they don't know much about UR et all.
^ This.
I'd count myself as one of those too. Seeing as dubstep was really the first EDM kinda music (if you want to call it that ) I got into, everything else 'roots'-wise I've heard has been a discovery for me. The sheer volume of history and releases of music today also means it's difficult to know where to start.
Good thread people.
Re: How did we get from Dubstep to House?
Posted: Fri May 13, 2011 1:36 am
by StopDropRave
Historically if you look at the progression of music, it always progresses towards / favors the dancers.
This is true for latin jazz and swing, among other genres.
It is my guess that influences of super popular house music from people like Guetta and Deadmau5 have defined the audience demand in this area of music, and most dubstep producers want to satisfy that demand. Just like Jazz, Dubstep has a subgenre that appeals to only aficionados (like Bebop vs Swing) and I think that will never die.
Plus it goes the other way - house music has been influenced by dubstep, and you can even see dubstep influence in recent hip-hop music.
Obvious dubstep influence. So it's both outward and inward influence, and there's really no way to stop this melding because that is what music does naturally. People will always be looking for ways to combine different types of music.
Re: How did we get from Dubstep to House?
Posted: Fri May 13, 2011 7:09 am
by garethom
(Pada) wrote:I think it's funny how people are saying "OMG WHAT OTHER MUSIC SOUNDS LIKE BODDIKA"
when it's clearly sounds like loads of Underground Resistance et al.
This exactly.
Underground Resistance
Addison Groove - SWAMP009
Re: How did we get from Dubstep to House?
Posted: Fri May 13, 2011 7:25 am
by JensMadsen
fractal wrote:
JensMadsen wrote:Not sure that i would call Jels dubstep though... I love the track and i love the new waves of 125-138 bpm bass music - but again, not sure that i would call anything under 135 bpm, dubstep. But that's just my opinion.
off of dubstep allstars 1, 134 bpm
we went from disco to house to jungle to garage to dubstep and now we're just everywhere.... a better question would be, who only listens/mixes/dances to only one type of music? i'm glad the walls are starting to come down
2-step innit? Well, You might have proven me wrong - touché.
Re: How did we get from Dubstep to House?
Posted: Fri May 13, 2011 9:37 am
by joeki
Jells reminds me of Acid, a genre most of the youths nowadays didn't grow up with/ don't know/have forgotten. But that was such fun music.
Re: How did we get from Dubstep to House?
Posted: Fri May 13, 2011 10:05 am
by spydee
not really dubstep but it shares a lot of other similar features aside from beat structure alone.
fuck genre names anyways, its all about the vibe the music is expressing.
Re: How did we get from Dubstep to House?
Posted: Fri May 13, 2011 10:50 am
by capo ultra
garethom wrote:
(Pada) wrote:I think it's funny how people are saying "OMG WHAT OTHER MUSIC SOUNDS LIKE BODDIKA"
when it's clearly sounds like loads of Underground Resistance et al.
This exactly.
Underground Resistance
Addison Groove - SWAMP009
exactly the kid that brought up Loefah's label as an example of House is way wide of the mark, Loefah et al are ripping Underground Resistance ie Techno (long may it continue)
Re: How did we get from Dubstep to House?
Posted: Fri May 13, 2011 10:54 am
by agoJ
rorz9992 wrote:Basically what happened is 99% of the people on here blindly bum a few different producers etc, one of whom is Loefah.
Loefah started putting out more house inspired stuff on Swamp and the average user on here was like "this is fiyah! this is my 2010 tip" (possibly without even hearing it first).
So then they bought up all the Boddika stuff etc, but of course had to also buy more stuff to mix with it, so bought some slightly older releases on Hessle and so on (when these were originally released they were probably blissfully unaware stuff like this existed).
This would explain it's recent popularity, coupled with the fact the 140bpm halfstep stuff is declining in popularity due to being done to death by everyone for a few years, also nobody has an attention span long enough these days to not get bored by something very quickly, before needing something new to get into.
What a whopper.
Re: How did we get from Dubstep to House?
Posted: Fri May 13, 2011 2:07 pm
by Caski
this stuffs growing on me man, mixes with them are sounding so different n fresh!
Re: How did we get from Dubstep to House?
Posted: Fri May 13, 2011 4:13 pm
by capo ultra
this main forum thing is funny
Re: How did we get from Dubstep to House?
Posted: Fri May 13, 2011 5:38 pm
by craft
capo ultra wrote:House -> Garage -> Dubstep -> Garage -> House
Any chance you could complicate that for me? I'm looking for much less clarity if possible. Ta.