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danrev wrote:

Neptune wrote:i wanna buy their last ever paper. i wonder what the headline will be...

News International to launch Sun on Sunday

Great minds think alike, fools seldom differ, etc. etc.

it's just a never ending circle.

http://ianbone.wordpress.com/2011/07/07 ... -days-ago/

July 7, 2011 · 5:04 pm
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‘SUNDAY SUN ‘ REGISTERED TWO DAYS AGO

‘THE SUN ON SUNDAY’ business name registered two days ago by ‘persons unknown’.

firky wrote:http://ianbone.wordpress.com/2011/07/07 ... -days-ago/

July 7, 2011 · 5:04 pm
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‘SUNDAY SUN ‘ REGISTERED TWO DAYS AGO

‘THE SUN ON SUNDAY’ business name registered two days ago by ‘persons unknown’.

baited!

could be some great cyber squatting.



and if it did launch it couldnt be too soon because it will just seem too obvious whats happening... hopefully the rot spreads and the sun and the mail get dragged in too.


and Adam Curtis has got a great piece on Murdoch from a while back

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/adamcurtis/2 ... it_of.html


and a great piece of journalism in... shock horror... the telegraph by Peter Oborne

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/peter ... l-friends/

Peter Oborne is a good journo. He's a tory but a realistic one.

Did you see Norman Tibbit's troll about the left wing press?

What left wing press

oh yeah is anyone hoping the notw go mental on sunday and spill filthy filthy gossip beans everywhere (debbie mcgee - animal lover)




"The following people are gay..."

So I hear on the wireless this morning that the World is closing it`s doors after 160 years or whatever.

64hz wrote:

magma wrote:Jon Snow tweets:

BREAKING: News International tells #c4news this Sunday's issue of the News of the World will be its last.

now just need to get rid of the sun and daily mail, then guillotine murdoch and alls good.

yeah let's butcher the british press until there's only the BBC left. never bought any of these tabloids but their systematic destruction is not a good thing.

the way all these politicians, journalists and police are faking shock like they haven't known about this for years is disgusting.

Can't hide So at least we now know that Rebekah Brooks livelihood is more important than a 165 Year old publication and hundreds of people's jobs.

I wonder what she's got on Rupert...

soul dead wrote:

64hz wrote:

magma wrote:Jon Snow tweets:

BREAKING: News International tells #c4news this Sunday's issue of the News of the World will be its last.

now just need to get rid of the sun and daily mail, then guillotine murdoch and alls good.

yeah let's butcher the british press until there's only the BBC left. never bought any of these tabloids but their systematic destruction is not a good thing.

the way all these politicians, journalists and police are faking shock like they haven't known about this for years is disgusting.

thats not what i said. and yes it is a good thing. and yes it is disgusting.

how is it a good thing? do you really want to live in a country where there's only completely bland factual journalism and opinion pieces you agree with?

seeing as there's clearly been a massive demand for the details obtained through phone hacking I'd say this whole scandal just reflects the hilariously misanthropic nature of our society rather than actually indicting the publications themselves.

soul dead wrote:how is it a good thing? do you really want to live in a country where there's only completely bland factual journalism and opinion pieces you agree with?

seeing as there's clearly been a massive demand for the details obtained through phone hacking I'd say this whole scandal just reflects the hilariously misanthropic nature of our society rather than actually indicting the publications themselves.

Last time I checked, celebrity gossip, rumours and conjecture about politicians having affairs were all being handled very effectively for free on the Internet.

It's the market for proper paid journalism that needs saving, not the tittle-tattle merchants.

magma wrote:

soul dead wrote:how is it a good thing? do you really want to live in a country where there's only completely bland factual journalism and opinion pieces you agree with?

seeing as there's clearly been a massive demand for the details obtained through phone hacking I'd say this whole scandal just reflects the hilariously misanthropic nature of our society rather than actually indicting the publications themselves.

Last time I checked, celebrity gossip, rumours and conjecture about politicians having affairs were all being handled very effectively for free on the Internet.

It's the market for proper paid journalism that needs saving, not the tittle-tattle merchants.

the internet is even less accountable than the printed word. and it's very difficult to draw the line between what you call 'proper journalism' and what you call 'tittle-tattle merchants'

sounds like a politicisation of the print media, fuelled by class divisions. let's not pretend that The Sun and The Times don't have different demographics.

magma wrote:

soul dead wrote:how is it a good thing? do you really want to live in a country where there's only completely bland factual journalism and opinion pieces you agree with?

seeing as there's clearly been a massive demand for the details obtained through phone hacking I'd say this whole scandal just reflects the hilariously misanthropic nature of our society rather than actually indicting the publications themselves.

Last time I checked, celebrity gossip, rumours and conjecture about politicians having affairs were all being handled very effectively for free on the Internet.

It's the market for proper paid journalism that needs saving, not the tittle-tattle merchants.

There's always going to be a demand for tittle-tattle and Max Clifford's crap in print; look at the countless glossy magazines. That part will never go away, even the broadsheets dabble in a bit of celeb bollocks. Intellectual elitism... I'd love to see it as much as anyone else, no more Hollyoaks, no more ITV, etc.

Souldead, I think we all agree that what NOTW was abhorrent, and I think we can all agree that the media and journalists often work in a very grey area of ethics and morals. The difference is they got shopped / caught, and didn't just dabble in the grey, they went off the scale! The public moral outrage actually disproves this, "misanthropic society" invention of yours, no?

But give it six months, a year, two years. When it's all but a memory and we'll begin to see another hydra's head.

our disgust at our own immorality as a society is a manifestation of its misanthropy. we seek to punish a select group for collective misdeeds.

also given the qualifications of the vast majority of tabloid journalists, I'd say they are the intellectual elite.

I guess you could construe it that way, much the same way with a bit of careful wording and delicate verbose you could pin the entire thing on oh I don't know... anything of your choosing.

Personally I think most people simply agree that it was a cuntish thing to do but I accept people like myself and many more are using it to have a swipe at the tories and their mates.

Little video for magma and yourself...

soul dead wrote:also given the qualifications of the vast majority of tabloid journalists, I'd say they are the intellectual elite.

Look at the Guardian, they're all mates from Oxbridge. That has nothing to do with how clever they are but who their parents are and more importantly, which schools they went to.

It's almost like another British thing I can't put my finger on..