Posted: Tue May 29, 2007 10:47 pm
the original tune is a beautiful piece of music, and so is coki's version too.
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Posted: Tue May 29, 2007 10:59 pm
big tune & big producer STANDARD
Posted: Tue May 29, 2007 11:13 pm
some people are stupid cokis a bad man producer and i bet most of you listen 2 dat wack loop based dubstep or da crap which is sounds like drum and bass but at 137
Posted: Tue May 29, 2007 11:14 pm
You beat me to it.flipw wrote: I'm surprised this thread has gone 4 pages without any 1 mentioning the classic The Orb tune from 1989 with the same sample. but then I am old
I dont think there's anything wrong with female vocals in tracks. I think it has to be done well though. That "Lovin You" track sounds real squeaky to me. The high pitch on it cuts through me like nails on a blackboard.
A good example of a vocal track is on the Andy Weatherall Fabric Mix CD, track number 5 by Alexkid called "Dont Hide It". There the vocal fits in really well with the acid line, and it doesnt sound like a simple sample grabbed somewhere thats just been cut and pasted into the beats.. it sounds very organic, like she sang straight over it.
I think non-grime style vocals is definitely an avenue for dubstep to explore - without hopefully the music behind it turning all light and fluffy (maybe someone can link to that "liquid" thread so people can read it without that whole debate being repeated).
With a slower beat it might be difficult for a vocalist to get some soul/tune, but its definitely do-able. There's probably artists out there as well who would give it a go. Jennifer Lara (RIP) was an old reggae singer who did stuff with the Basic Channel boys, I reckon a lot of dub or even ragga female vocalists would be feeling it for someting different.
Oh wait - I just remembered that song "Hater" by Various Production (?). Thats a female vocal dubstep track exactly what I'm imagining. Thats very good.
Posted: Wed May 30, 2007 8:54 am
Whether you like this tune or not you've got to admire coki's balls
Posted: Wed May 30, 2007 8:59 am
Yeah those two standout as a main turning point for type of D&B played in the big dances, trailing on from the era of BC, Ed Rush & Opticial and Ram Raiders it was a breath of fresh air really.*DeCiBella~~ wrote:very ture! I remember it gettin droped at Stratford Rex at 3 in the morning and the place went crazy! It was big feel good tune before it got so rinsed out/chart etc etc It was well diff at the time, that tune started the return of a vocal dnb phase.... LK followed it if i remember rightly and loads of other i cant be bothered to think of or look up.RagoJu wrote:What's happened to opened arms for the diversity of dubstep?
Oh and Shake Your Body used to go off in dances, I'm talking pre-chart business too.
x x x
But still it was ALL about BC, Ed Rush & Opticial and Ram Raiders.
Posted: Wed May 30, 2007 9:59 am
paolo wrote:Whether you like this tune or not you've got to admire coki's balls
sorry it made me chuckle. mental image...Posted: Wed May 30, 2007 10:30 am
i don't think there is anything wrong with dubstep+female vocals, especially that rhythm&sound stuff with a real oldschool roots/dub attitude is fresh! and that with the heaviness of dubstep could be very interesting.
the original tune is a classic. but i just don't feel the squeakyines, cuts into my brain. of course big up coki for trying something new, no doubt he's one of the most interesting producers out there...
basically it just surprises me that people are hyping this tune. it's not awful or so, but i just don't get it. and i'm pretty sure if some no-name amateur producer had done that remix in a similar way people wouldn't be so hype about it. (just my theory, i might be wrong too)...but good to see a big debate going on here.. discussion is essential.
the original tune is a classic. but i just don't feel the squeakyines, cuts into my brain. of course big up coki for trying something new, no doubt he's one of the most interesting producers out there...
basically it just surprises me that people are hyping this tune. it's not awful or so, but i just don't get it. and i'm pretty sure if some no-name amateur producer had done that remix in a similar way people wouldn't be so hype about it. (just my theory, i might be wrong too)...but good to see a big debate going on here.. discussion is essential.
Posted: Wed May 30, 2007 11:06 am
I told you it was all about bollocksDelendi wrote:paolo wrote:Whether you like this tune or not you've got to admire coki's balls
Posted: Wed May 30, 2007 11:16 am
i don't think anyone is denying that coki is a badman, he has to be the most popular producer in the scene? or one of them? we all feel his tracks - but surely some more than others?WHAT-U KNOW ABOUT DUBSTEP wrote:some people are stupid cokis a bad man producer and i bet most of you listen 2 dat wack loop based dubstep or da crap which is sounds like drum and bass but at 137
love it that a few people are just casually saying it isnt for them and then this man gives it all the:
I BET YOU stnuc LISTEN TO SLOWED DOWN DRUM AND BASS
Posted: Wed May 30, 2007 11:18 am
nah i dont really like nu skool breaksJaime wrote:
I BET YOU stnuc LISTEN TO SLOWED DOWN DRUM AND BASS
Posted: Wed May 30, 2007 12:51 pm
I dont see why on earth people would be so rejective of such a daring and different song that is obviously pushing boundries...whether they be good or bad!?
Not everyones going to produce similar dubstep forever...
Not everyones going to produce similar dubstep forever...
Posted: Wed May 30, 2007 1:49 pm
I love abit of ruff loving!
Kick me in the bollox and call me a trouser arouser!
Kick me in the bollox and call me a trouser arouser!
Posted: Wed May 30, 2007 1:52 pm
haha.Ribenatooth wrote:I love abit of ruff loving!
Kick me in the bollox and call me a trouser arouser!
Posted: Wed May 30, 2007 4:21 pm
the song is absolute heavy and N-Type dropped it in the exactly right moment !!! 
btw there was a 2 step remix from loving u on female favaz vol 1. with a big bass (and on the flip from womans logic a old house track?...)
btw there was a 2 step remix from loving u on female favaz vol 1. with a big bass (and on the flip from womans logic a old house track?...)
Posted: Wed May 30, 2007 9:07 pm
It's the lalalala's that makes it queso.
this sums it up for me.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMVQ4op53AY
I find it a baffling choice of song actually. These are so many amazing love songs that stay well away from making me want to gag on saccarin sentiment.
Why that tune? for the high F? for the lalalaaaas? why?
I think it's going to be a bit regrettable. Play it once or twice for a laugh but please don't put it to wax. Do you really want it to your name? Not that it will overshadow other highly justified achievements but I think it will linger. I guess you do what you've gotta do and fuck what everyone else thinks.
Jacob miller - Baby I love you so.
this sums it up for me.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMVQ4op53AY
I find it a baffling choice of song actually. These are so many amazing love songs that stay well away from making me want to gag on saccarin sentiment.
Why that tune? for the high F? for the lalalaaaas? why?
I think it's going to be a bit regrettable. Play it once or twice for a laugh but please don't put it to wax. Do you really want it to your name? Not that it will overshadow other highly justified achievements but I think it will linger. I guess you do what you've gotta do and fuck what everyone else thinks.
Jacob miller - Baby I love you so.
Posted: Wed May 30, 2007 9:09 pm
fucking ROTARY CONNECTION!!!
Posted: Thu May 31, 2007 10:57 pm
Weird, first heard on dubstep allstars 5... Not the kind of thing i expected to get sampled, but that's why i love dubstep. As long as it doesn't start a trend of "ironic" sampling i am cool with it.
But all this aside, does this not remind you of a woman getting spanked in a tree by a dwarf with a space hopper?
The chris morris - dubstep connection strikes again
But all this aside, does this not remind you of a woman getting spanked in a tree by a dwarf with a space hopper?
The chris morris - dubstep connection strikes again
Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 9:22 am
YES!!Slim wrote:Weird, first heard on dubstep allstars 5... Not the kind of thing i expected to get sampled, but that's why i love dubstep. As long as it doesn't start a trend of "ironic" sampling i am cool with it.
But all this aside, does this not remind you of a woman getting spanked in a tree by a dwarf with a space hopper?
The chris morris - dubstep connection strikes again
Heard dat before?
Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 1:01 pm
It's amazing how history repeats itself. This discussion reminds me of the endless debates about R&B samples in Hip-Hop in 1990-1994, when everybody flipped when Method Man worked with Mary J. Blige. Of course, nowadays when Hip Hop and R&B can barely be told from one another it seems rediculous.