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I hope DSF gets raped by trolls....................Who gon' arrest me??

Perfecture wrote:I hope DSF gets raped by trolls....................Who gon' arrest me??

Seckle and Badj, Double Clothesline yo arse to the curb!

Pedro Sánchez wrote:

Perfecture wrote:I hope DSF gets raped by trolls....................Who gon' arrest me??

Seckle and Badj, Double Clothesline yo arse to the curb!

Nah, they'd bust out the Dudley Death Drop

complete overreaction. It's way out of whack if you can be out of prison in 6 months for laundering millions but put in prison for years just for "trolling".
At the most it should be a slap on the wrist style response - staggered fines and temporary internet disconnection would be a far better place to start. Jail is for really serious stuff, not a place to put people who are simply just dickheads and not really much else.

hugh wrote:put in prison for years just for "trolling".

He got 18 weeks. He'll probably serve about 10, it's hardly comparable with rape sentencing!

magma wrote:

hugh wrote:put in prison for years just for "trolling".

He got 18 weeks. He'll probably serve about 10, it's hardly comparable with rape sentencing!

This. Do half the people commenting in this thread even have half a clue about the issue?

my bad thought it said months not weeks.

if you can't handle trolling stay off the internet plain and simple
to the argument of people grieving on a website getting trolled, why don't they just keep it offline like in the olden days before all this social networking crap, you know that actual social part
far too many sensitive people who just now seemed to get online (and probably have no place online) and want the internet regulated because they can't differentiate between reality and online

deadly habit wrote:if you can't handle trolling stay off the internet plain and simple
to the argument of people grieving on a website getting trolled, why don't they just keep it offline like in the olden days before all this social networking crap, you know that actual social part
far too many sensitive people who just now seemed to get online (and probably have no place online) and want the internet regulated because they can't differentiate between reality and online

So when you went on the production forum and shared your feelings with us about your dog passing away, which is something I remember at the time as being particularly heart wrenching for you and for those of us who care about you (myself included), if you had got trolled in that thread you would have been all like "Yeah, fair enough its the internet" I suppose?

And when you shared a similar experience with us on the same board about one of your friends passing away (the guy who was then other half of Deadly Habit originally I think? Correct me if Im wrong...) If you had been trolled in that thread would you have been ok with it??

No. Of course not. And rightly so.

Nobody, and I do mean Nobody, has the right to belittle someone elses grief for their own amusement. Be it on the internet, in the street or where ever.

JFK wrote:

deadly habit wrote:if you can't handle trolling stay off the internet plain and simple
to the argument of people grieving on a website getting trolled, why don't they just keep it offline like in the olden days before all this social networking crap, you know that actual social part
far too many sensitive people who just now seemed to get online (and probably have no place online) and want the internet regulated because they can't differentiate between reality and online

So when you went on the production forum and shared your feelings with us about your dog passing away, which is something I remember at the time as being particularly heart wrenching for you and for those of us who care about you (myself included), if you had got trolled in that thread you would have been all like "Yeah, fair enough its the internet" I suppose?

And when you shared a similar experience with us on the same board about one of your friends passing away (the guy who was then other half of Deadly Habit originally I think? Correct me if Im wrong...) If you had been trolled in that thread would you have been ok with it??

No. Of course not. And rightly so.

Nobody, and I do mean Nobody, has the right to belittle someone elses grief for their own amusement. Be it on the internet, in the street or where ever.

He wouldn't be okay with it, but could he ignore it? Write it off as some internet troll so who cares? Yes. Most people with a brain could.

Kodachrome wrote:

JFK wrote:

deadly habit wrote:if you can't handle trolling stay off the internet plain and simple
to the argument of people grieving on a website getting trolled, why don't they just keep it offline like in the olden days before all this social networking crap, you know that actual social part
far too many sensitive people who just now seemed to get online (and probably have no place online) and want the internet regulated because they can't differentiate between reality and online

So when you went on the production forum and shared your feelings with us about your dog passing away, which is something I remember at the time as being particularly heart wrenching for you and for those of us who care about you (myself included), if you had got trolled in that thread you would have been all like "Yeah, fair enough its the internet" I suppose?

And when you shared a similar experience with us on the same board about one of your friends passing away (the guy who was then other half of Deadly Habit originally I think? Correct me if Im wrong...) If you had been trolled in that thread would you have been ok with it??

No. Of course not. And rightly so.

Nobody, and I do mean Nobody, has the right to belittle someone elses grief for their own amusement. Be it on the internet, in the street or where ever.

He wouldn't be okay with it, but could he ignore it? Write it off as some internet troll so who cares? Yes. Most people with a brain could.

bingo and there has never been another half of my production just me solo
there is a vast difference between someone trying to get a rise out of you online behind anonymity and someone doing it in real life
there doesn't need to be any laws or regulation just because people can't differentiate between the two

People are fucked up.

as wrong as it is, and as vexed as id be, deadly has the words of wisdom here im afraid....

deadly habit wrote:if you can't handle trolling stay off the internet plain and simple
to the argument of people grieving on a website getting trolled, why don't they just keep it offline like in the olden days before all this social networking crap, you know that actual social part
far too many sensitive people who just now seemed to get online (and probably have no place online) and want the internet regulated because they can't differentiate between reality and online

people need to learn the difference between facebook and the real world.


edit : imo, its like people going to a millwall game as an away fan, and being disgusted by the abuse thrown at them.

that and sites have report buttons and user terms of agreement for a reason. your actions are accountable to that, not to the law as it's a slippery slope as to what could be considered trolling and these articles/stories on the internet 90% of the time are done by clueless morons who have no idea about the net and read by people who are equally clueless
case in point:

deadly habit wrote:to the argument of people grieving on a website getting trolled, why don't they just keep it offline like in the olden days before all this social networking crap, you know that actual social part

Because *everyone* lives on the Internet. It's not some elitist safezone for people that are in on the joke - it's an extension of the real world. You've gotta treat strangers, especially strangers who are on a memorial page for their dead teenage daughter with the same respect you'd show them in the street.

Not everyone logs straight onto 4Chan when they open their browser. Most people go to the BBC, Google, Facebook, Ebay and Amazon... it's all fair game out here in the forum badlands, but you can't take that kinda gunslinging into the big City, cowboy... you'll get yourself arrested.

you don't go into the ocean and not expect sharks

magma wrote:

deadly habit wrote:to the argument of people grieving on a website getting trolled, why don't they just keep it offline like in the olden days before all this social networking crap, you know that actual social part

Because *everyone* lives on the Internet. It's not some elitist safezone for people that are in on the joke - it's an extension of the real world. You've gotta treat strangers, especially strangers who are on a memorial page for their dead teenage daughter with the same respect you'd show them in the street.

Not everyone logs straight onto 4Chan when they open their browser. Most people go to the BBC, Google, Facebook, Ebay and Amazon... it's all fair game out here in the forum badlands, but you can't take that kinda gunslinging into the big City, cowboy... you'll get yourself arrested.

so its one rule for one part of the net, and then a seperate set of rules for the rest??

that's what terms of service are for
you know those things nobody reads when they sign up for sites

deadly is spot on imo..

i think i'd understand all of this more if the guy 'trolling' actually had some kind of connection with the family. can't really grasp how anyone can get so emotionally distraught over some completely random person posting something horrible on the internet (although it's obviously impossible to properly judge this kind of situation without being in it yourself)

magma wrote: Not everyone logs straight onto 4Chan when they open their browser. Most people go to the BBC, Google, Facebook, Ebay and Amazon... it's all fair game out here in the forum badlands, but you can't take that kinda gunslinging into the big City, cowboy... you'll get yourself arrested.

to carry on the tradition of weird internet/realworld analogies, isn't that like saying it's okay to commit crimes in the wilderness or areas where the police have no real power, just because it's not on the high street where all the nice shops are and the 'normal' people go?

Err, sorry, I just got carried away in a figure of speech; it wasn't really a proper analogy.. don't read too much into it!

But there are areas of the Internet... here, for example, where you have to be a registered user to see the board (or, IMO, anywhere you wouldn't find without opening your e-mail and personal social media pages) that are basically free-for-all... if you post something offensive in here, it's my fault for being in a forum marked NSFW. We're all pretty thick skinned and if anyone was too fragile to deal with it, they'd get (rightfully) torn to shreds... but that really isn't the same as a place like Facebook, where everyone is... especially a Facebook page created by the people you're intending to make miserable.

You can say what you want in the privacy of your own home, in the pub, on a forum, on Facebook with your mates or on the streets to the entire public practically anywhere for all I care... but you really can't walk into a grieving family's life for the sole purpose of upsetting them even more about their teenage daughter's death. You can't specifically target them. It doesn't matter whether you post them a letter, knock on their door, call them on the telephone, send them an e-mail or post on their Facebook wall... whoever would do such a thing anywhere deserves to be taught at least a small lesson (and 10ish weeks is a small lesson) by a fair and, more importantly, decent society.