made a pretty good koan / noisia sounding Reese in my sig.
was reallly simple too. 3 saws and white noise, two band reject filters, disto, eq and side chaining. then just cutting that up. No resampling and very light on effects other than distortion.
Re: Koan Sound/Kill The Noise HELPPPP
Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2012 6:15 pm
by mthrfnk
Some people dislike resampling, others praise it loads... personally I think it's great if done right - I usually do it in combination with granulization and have made some really cool sounds.
The basses in these were made using both granulization and resampling, resampling specifically helped on the 3rd track to make the reeses more growly: Soundcloud Soundcloud Soundcloud
Re: Koan Sound/Kill The Noise HELPPPP
Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2012 7:58 pm
by BLASKO
^^^^ wow man, i would love to know how you made the reese on your second song there(out of time wip), exactly what i have been trying to create
Re: Koan Sound/Kill The Noise HELPPPP
Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2012 8:18 pm
by mthrfnk
BLASKO wrote:^^^^ wow man, i would love to know how you made the reese on your second song there(out of time wip), exactly what i have been trying to create
All of them come from a single reese I made (which is like 5 seconds long), I resampled/resynthisised in IL Harmor and then loaded into FL Granulizer. All the effects - like moving, pitching up/down and growly bits come from automating the granulization parameters. On the final mixer channel I think I had maybe some slight distortion, maybe some compression and some tight reverb on the high end to make it more boomy.
Re: Koan Sound/Kill The Noise HELPPPP
Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2012 9:44 pm
by BLASKO
thanks man, ive been playing around with harmor alot lately, ill deff have to try out the granulizer more i guess hahaha thanks man
Re: Koan Sound/Kill The Noise HELPPPP
Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2012 9:56 pm
by mthrfnk
BLASKO wrote:thanks man, ive been playing around with harmor alot lately, ill deff have to try out the granulizer more i guess hahaha thanks man
Check out SeamlessR's tutorials on youtube for some good Harmor tuts.
As for granulisation a good start is turn hold, attack and grain spacing knobs all the way to the left and turn the final knob to a few percent to the right of the center (which is 0%) and turn/automate that knob very slightly around that position. Obviously tweak the others to find cool sounds - but thats pretty much where I start from. The pan/stereo seperation knob is also a good one to automate.
Re: Koan Sound/Kill The Noise HELPPPP
Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2012 10:27 pm
by BLASKO
ahahah yeah, ive been watchin seamless's videos great stuff!! thanks dude
Re: Koan Sound/Kill The Noise HELPPPP
Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2012 2:26 am
by enjarcher
TBH, resampling generally isn't necessary (not in my experience anyway), sometimes some chopping up but that's all.
Re: Koan Sound/Kill The Noise HELPPPP
Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2012 2:58 am
by SMOR3S
i11icit wrote:Forgive me in advance if this is an amateurish question but what do you mean by modulating the sound using Massive? Do you mean taking audio and running it through Massive and using Massives filters / LFOs / FX to modulate the sound?
To my knowledge this isn't possible???
IKR If I could use Massive as a vocoder, that would be the shiz! I never heard anyone doing this, so lol..
Re: Koan Sound/Kill The Noise HELPPPP
Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2012 8:13 am
by Sinergy
So....
KTN uses reason and whats in reason to create a lot of those sounds
plesk's tune is out of malstrom, in reason.
If you don't have reason, what is a good alternative? I feel like so much stuff is exclusive to reason, a lot of these really awesome sounds that people ask about end up being only able to make in reason...
Re: Koan Sound/Kill The Noise HELPPPP
Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2012 8:38 am
by smile
Sinergy wrote:If you don't have reason, what is a good alternative? I feel like so much stuff is exclusive to reason, a lot of these really awesome sounds that people ask about end up being only able to make in reason...
How about you show me one sound that you need reason to recreate and i will buy it for you
Re: Koan Sound/Kill The Noise HELPPPP
Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2012 9:09 am
by mthrfnk
KTN uses Massive. A lot.
Re: Koan Sound/Kill The Noise HELPPPP
Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2012 12:12 pm
by enjarcher
Yeah, KTN doesn't use reason anymore, not since he started using these crazy sounds anyway. Massive's definitely the way to go. On the other hand, you can get some great results by using complex eq/filter processing on reeses (which is what Noisia, Skrillex, and probably KOAN sound do). I managed to get some good results: https://soundcloud.com/proj14/drum-and-bass-experiment
Re: Koan Sound/Kill The Noise HELPPPP
Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2012 1:26 am
by ill mindset
enjarcher wrote:Yeah, KTN doesn't use reason anymore, not since he started using these crazy sounds anyway. Massive's definitely the way to go. On the other hand, you can get some great results by using complex eq/filter processing on reeses (which is what Noisia, Skrillex, and probably KOAN sound do). I managed to get some good results: https://soundcloud.com/proj14/drum-and-bass-experiment
Nice work. I like your reece line. crisp highs
Re: Koan Sound/Kill The Noise HELPPPP
Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2012 4:46 am
by enjarcher
ill mindset wrote:
enjarcher wrote:Yeah, KTN doesn't use reason anymore, not since he started using these crazy sounds anyway. Massive's definitely the way to go. On the other hand, you can get some great results by using complex eq/filter processing on reeses (which is what Noisia, Skrillex, and probably KOAN sound do). I managed to get some good results: https://soundcloud.com/proj14/drum-and-bass-experiment
Nice work. I like your reece line. crisp highs
Thanks, I put the FM8 patch through ohmicide first to bring out all the frequencies and just make it really sharp and full
Re: Koan Sound/Kill The Noise HELPPPP
Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 1:06 am
by BLASKO
hey Scarcellex
no chance you want to go more into detail how you got those awesome talky basses on mean machines???? i tried remaking them just by what you have posted and had no luck what so ever. any chance of a screen shot?? or instrument rack lol
any help would be awesome
Re: Koan Sound/Kill The Noise HELPPPP
Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 10:53 pm
by smile
edit: cleaned up my sc
Re: Koan Sound/Kill The Noise HELPPPP
Posted: Sun Mar 24, 2013 8:15 pm
by Ishka
smile that is awesome.
if you could shed any light on how to modulate a sound like that it would be greatly appreciated
Re: Koan Sound/Kill The Noise HELPPPP
Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2013 1:29 am
by vault
Haha, funny... It's pretty much a normal growl filtered, the layering technique just made it seem like it says "Talk to me".
Example:
0:45 - seems like the bass says "Talk to Me" too, right?
Re: Koan Sound/Kill The Noise HELPPPP
Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2013 3:22 am
by Phatscout
I'm pretty sure during mau5hax (or some other interview) KTN said the Talk to Me bass is (I'm dead serious here) Modern Talking through a guitar amp. Honestly I think it sounds obviously M-Talky to me.