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i never listened to house or techno before so all these sounds are new to me and i like them , i dont care if theyre original /whatever to the eighties cos i wasnt alive then!

though yeah 808 snare is rubbish, i quite like the cowbell though

Lawman is back!! Only dude that knows what is what around here!

The ignorance is strong in this thread.

people will like what they like, but isn't it a bit funny that certain man admit to not being familiar with 90s house & techno, yet insist that the boddika/convex/addison stuff is the most out-there and forward-thinking music about at the moment?

that one maurice donovan whitelabel didn't produce much of an emotional reaction in me beyond a shrug and a sigh, and i suspect a lot of people who've actually heard a 80s chicago house track feel much the same way.

what's funny is it seemed to go dnb guys>electro house>brostep or dnb guys>dubstep>house as far as that camp went

Dubstep in: de derp da herp ta tiddily dum

lol at Widowmaker. (I'm dropping that freebie tonight btw. it's fire)

I find the vast majority of this new house wave incredibly boring. It seems to have lost all the things that made me interested about Dubstep, the swing, the syncopation, the dread heavy subs. But bare people seem to go batshit crazy for it. A friend of mine's girl went mad for Scuba's 'Adrenalin' recently, I listened to it and thought it was mad boring, same with Sicko Cell. Can't really put my finger on it, just ain't for me. I remember Blackdown or Simon Reynolds talking about this house sound as kinda the 'default state' for dance music. The inbetween time of the big innovations (Jungle / DnB / Garage / Dubstep). Dunno if I agree with that wholeheartedly, but it definitely feels like a lot of the current sound is very well trodden ground. I've always liked House, but specific types/sub genres of the monster that House is.

must say, i want to gt into the new techno sound, just cant, not for me. Was extremely disapointed with pearson sounds essential mix, i mean i didnt enjoy any of it until the classic dubstep at the end. I dunno, like everyone says each to their own, i just think its bland as fuck :/

pete bubonic wrote:I find the vast majority of this new house wave incredibly boring. It seems to have lost all the things that made me interested about Dubstep, the swing, the syncopation, the dread heavy subs. But bare people seem to go batshit crazy for it. A friend of mine's girl went mad for Scuba's 'Adrenalin' recently, I listened to it and thought it was mad boring, same with Sicko Cell. Can't really put my finger on it, just ain't for me. I remember Blackdown or Simon Reynolds talking about this house sound as kinda the 'default state' for dance music. The inbetween time of the big innovations (Jungle / DnB / Garage / Dubstep). Dunno if I agree with that wholeheartedly, but it definitely feels like a lot of the current sound is very well trodden ground. I've always liked House, but specific types/sub genres of the monster that House is.

Thats exactly what i think this house obsession is about. People have jumped on it because they're desperate to not be associated with dubstep anymore. As soon as the next big underground genre breaks they'll be straight on it and house will be forgotten again.

southstar wrote: and house will be forgotted again.

Except for the fact that house has always been the biggest genre of EDM pretty much since it's inception. The only rival is hip hop and to be honest most commercial hip hop is really just rappers over a mutant strain of house. A bit like a lot of commercial grime is MCs over house. I don't think it will be forgotten any time soon.

House would be a whole lot better it people stopped using that rubbish snare that sounds like its taken from 80s gameshow music

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pete bubonic wrote:I find the vast majority of this new house wave incredibly boring.

southstar wrote:People have jumped on it because they're desperate to not be associated with dubstep anymore. As soon as the next big underground genre breaks they'll be straight on it and house will be forgotten again.

The people I know didn't jump anywhere , they already came from a house/techno/electro background before dubstep and are now in a position to push all their influences into one sound , people want to label it 'uk house/bassmusic' or some other bullshit name either because it has a 4/4 pattern or they have to stick it comfortably into some pigeonhole. House/Techno has never been forgotten or gone anywhere you just never noticed it.

nakedlunch wrote:

pete bubonic wrote:I find the vast majority of this new house wave incredibly boring.

southstar wrote:People have jumped on it because they're desperate to not be associated with dubstep anymore. As soon as the next big underground genre breaks they'll be straight on it and house will be forgotten again.

The people I know didn't jump anywhere , they already came from a house/techno/electro background before dubstep and are now in a position to push all their influences into one sound , people want to label it 'uk house/bassmusic' or some other bullshit name either because it has a 4/4 pattern or they have to stick it comfortably into some pigeonhole. House/Techno has never been forgotten or gone anywhere you just never noticed it.

I was specifically refering to the people who have moved from dubstep to house in the last few years, not the genre as a whole.

it would be better if, instead of people constantly focusing on what they don't like and what they think is shit, people could just focus on doing their own thing and being positive about that instead.

I'm all for mature interesting music discussions but this has just turned into (or was to start off anyway) "oh this is not my thing therefore its shit and everyone whose into it is obviously jumping on the bandwagon" and its so fucking boring and a lot of it just stinks of denial of dubstep heads being annoyed that previously dubstep producers are trying something different and not wanting to stick to making dubstep for the rest of their lives.

This house stuff is a bit hit and miss for me, although i do like some of the 808 drum sounds. Just not my kind of thing really but i can respect that some people like it

Jake Daniel wrote:it would be better if, instead of people constantly focusing on what they don't like and what they think is shit, people could just focus on doing their own thing and being positive about that instead.

I'm all for mature interesting music discussions but this has just turned into (or was to start off anyway) "oh this is not my thing therefore its shit and everyone whose into it is obviously jumping on the bandwagon" and its so fucking boring and a lot of it just stinks of denial of dubstep heads being annoyed that previously dubstep producers are trying something different and not wanting to stick to making dubstep for the rest of their lives.

Haven't you heard? Everything is shit now, especially dubstep. Get with it.

The thing about dubstep is that pretty soon when all the brostep thingy has burst itll be just like uk garage/ jungle is now, a load of producers making the same old beats over and over, playing the classics and trying to hark back to the glory days of 06 or whatever for an increasingly ageing audience. Whilt this isn't bad per se, it wouldn't be good if this encompassed the entire former dubstep scene as the famous fast moving uk dance scene will have stagnated.

I really dont know how anyone can call all this new stuff boring or filler, it's the same in every scene: I'm sure in 06 it wasnt all big tune, big tune, big tune (wouldnt know i wasn't around then). Not every tune can be fantastic but to me a lot of them are, and there is a vast variety in the tunes getting produced-

It's not just comprised of songs like sicko cell/ swims etc, listen to AMUS- Take the Plunge, Kingdom- Fogs, Shortstuff- Don't Ask Don't Get and Mosca- Bax- some of the bigger tunes of the new "scene" and compare it to the cookie cutter state of "dungeon" and contrast.

ps. I like the dungeon sound a lot, just in small doses- cookie cutter is not always bad

Be-1ne wrote:

THIS

love that song btw

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