But seriously, could do with the fact that there was never really a Poster Boy for UKG (bar Craig David).
Americans love to have a face to the label. Its their sense of commericalisation and consumerism I suppose.
Fuck it, I lied. It's cos they have bad taste.
Re: Why didn't Garage took off in America?
Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 5:18 pm
by dj $hy
fassyman wrote:
£10 Bag wrote:Garage never took of in Cornwall either and I blame
twothirdsmajority wrote:stars like Craig David and Daniel bedingfield
for making the genre look silly
i realy like the craig david bits
bedingfield not so much lol
I was standing in a shop in Acton when Daniel himself walked in with his own white labels of Gotta Get Through this! I grabbed it, that tune was hot (if you can believe it) back in the day... Now The only Bedingfield I wanna knwo about his is sister n I dont wanna hear her sing if ya get meh!
N back to the point didnt the US have their own garage which was massive before UKG?! Chicago House, Detroit Techno n one other I cant remember but ends in Garage lol!
Re: Why didn't Garage take off in America?
Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 5:21 pm
by pkay
craig david charted here.... so did the 2step remix of get through this.
however in order for UK garage to succeed it would have to be in our dance community primarily and at the time we were at full saturation with tech house, minimal techno, and deep house.
These are all terms your country would later be familiar with after you stopped listening to UK hard house/UK NRG
Re: Why didn't Garage took off in America?
Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 5:27 pm
by leyenda
dj $hy wrote:
fassyman wrote:
£10 Bag wrote:Garage never took of in Cornwall either and I blame
twothirdsmajority wrote:stars like Craig David and Daniel bedingfield
for making the genre look silly
i realy like the craig david bits
bedingfield not so much lol
I was standing in a shop in Acton when Daniel himself walked in with his own white labels of Gotta Get Through this! I grabbed it, that tune was hot (if you can believe it) back in the day... Now The only Bedingfield I wanna knwo about his is sister n I dont wanna hear her sing if ya get meh!
Aw, Gotta Get Through This isn't that bad. As for Craig David - 7 Days was too overplayed and never thought much of Fill Me In. However Rewind is ok and Walking Away is a guilty pleasure. Of course both of these guys and their tracks pale in comparison to something like Sincere.
Re: Why didn't Garage took off in America?
Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 5:32 pm
by dj $hy
leyenda303 wrote:
dj $hy wrote:
fassyman wrote:
£10 Bag wrote:Garage never took of in Cornwall either and I blame
twothirdsmajority wrote:stars like Craig David and Daniel bedingfield
for making the genre look silly
i realy like the craig david bits
bedingfield not so much lol
I was standing in a shop in Acton when Daniel himself walked in with his own white labels of Gotta Get Through this! I grabbed it, that tune was hot (if you can believe it) back in the day... Now The only Bedingfield I wanna knwo about his is sister n I dont wanna hear her sing if ya get meh!
Aw, Gotta Get Through This isn't that bad. As for Craig David - 7 Days was too overplayed and never thought much of Fill Me In. However Rewind is ok and Walking Away is a guilty pleasure. Of course both of these guys and their tracks pale in comparison to something like Sincere.
BUUUUUUT at the time we all loved that "Re-e-wind vocal! lmao! I f'in loved 2-step, got em all at home! During that spell I was a DJ on Elite FM, worked 5mins away from BM soho whcih back then was Black Market - spent 5 years every lunch time in there n a shitload of money! Still do a 2-step show on Sub FM every once in a while!
No matter what people say, IMO, the MJ Cole, Artful Dodger and Sunship albums were fucking sick.
Re: Why didn't Garage take off in America?
Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 5:37 pm
by dj $hy
garethom wrote:No matter what people say, IMO, the MJ Cole, Artful Dodger and Sunship albums were fucking sick.
True dat!
Re: Why didn't Garage took off in America?
Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 5:41 pm
by seckle
Sharmaji wrote:the idea of EDM being a top40 staple is, at east in the states, still a VERY new thing. Hiphop, sure, but when garage & 2step were making their rounds, the top 10 tunes in the US were largely R&B/pop R&B (Christina Aguilera at the end of her teen days, Mariah Carey, Sisqo, Janet Jackson), pure pop like Britney Spears, or really awful white dude rock-- Matchbox Twenty, Savage Garden, and Creed. The largest electronic act, overground at least-- was Moby-- and he was HUGE. but definitely not 2 step.
Yes, timbaland's stuff at the time was really broken beat and not that far off from bugz in the attic, etc-- but it was R&B and marketed as such. Madonna did have that record out at the time that really aped 2step, "Music," but even she couldn't make the whole broken beat at 130bpm thing stick.
It amazed me being in London that summer, just how prevalent d&b was in overground culture-- on the radio, in the background in shopping centers, etc. It's only with the rise of HUGE pop singles on Ultra records that the same has been happening in the states.
V2 also fucked up the way they presented broken beat to america. All those Bugz singles and albums were pushed to RNB stations, and they would have no idea what to do with it at that time. its a real shame that Bugz didn't blow big then, as now they probably could fair better. Even So Solid, who probably had the biggest potential in terms of group image, videos etc, was barely marketed. I remember seeing oxideneutrino's NYC promo tour show, and about 11 people showed up.
Re: Why didn't Garage take off in America?
Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 5:43 pm
by seckle
dj $hy wrote:
garethom wrote:No matter what people say, IMO, the MJ Cole, Artful Dodger and Sunship albums were fucking sick.
True dat!
MJ Cole Sincere, changed everything!
Re: Why didn't Garage took off in America?
Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 5:46 pm
by dj $hy
seckle wrote:I remember seeing oxideneutrino's NYC promo tour show, and about 11 people showed up.
No ways! Man they were HUGE here! Who remembers that jam with the casualty theme tune in it! LOL too many memories in this thread!
Re: Why didn't Garage took off in America?
Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 5:48 pm
by leyenda
dj $hy wrote:
leyenda303 wrote:
dj $hy wrote:I was standing in a shop in Acton when Daniel himself walked in with his own white labels of Gotta Get Through this! I grabbed it, that tune was hot (if you can believe it) back in the day... Now The only Bedingfield I wanna knwo about his is sister n I dont wanna hear her sing if ya get meh!
Aw, Gotta Get Through This isn't that bad. As for Craig David - 7 Days was too overplayed and never thought much of Fill Me In. However Rewind is ok and Walking Away is a guilty pleasure. Of course both of these guys and their tracks pale in comparison to something like Sincere.
BUUUUUUT at the time we all loved that "Re-e-wind vocal! lmao! I f'in loved 2-step, got em all at home! During that spell I was a DJ on Elite FM, worked 5mins away from BM soho whcih back then was Black Market - spent 5 years every lunch time in there n a shitload of money! Still do a 2-step show on Sub FM every once in a while!
Thanks! Will check it out. Do you have a tracklist for the show? If not, no bother
Re: Why didn't Garage took off in America?
Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 5:51 pm
by dj $hy
leyenda303 wrote:
dj $hy wrote:
leyenda303 wrote:
dj $hy wrote:I was standing in a shop in Acton when Daniel himself walked in with his own white labels of Gotta Get Through this! I grabbed it, that tune was hot (if you can believe it) back in the day... Now The only Bedingfield I wanna knwo about his is sister n I dont wanna hear her sing if ya get meh!
Aw, Gotta Get Through This isn't that bad. As for Craig David - 7 Days was too overplayed and never thought much of Fill Me In. However Rewind is ok and Walking Away is a guilty pleasure. Of course both of these guys and their tracks pale in comparison to something like Sincere.
BUUUUUUT at the time we all loved that "Re-e-wind vocal! lmao! I f'in loved 2-step, got em all at home! During that spell I was a DJ on Elite FM, worked 5mins away from BM soho whcih back then was Black Market - spent 5 years every lunch time in there n a shitload of money! Still do a 2-step show on Sub FM every once in a while!
Thanks! Will check it out. Do you have a tracklist for the show? If not, no bother
Sadly not mate, the one issue with playing all records is there is no serato history to check after lol! Plus we get very stoned n generally have a laugh in the studio so no one wanted to write the tracklist! We'll be doing another very soon, maybe tomorrow so will TL it Trust me tho, classic's all the way!
Re: Why didn't Garage take off in America?
Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 5:51 pm
by mIrReN
pkay wrote:
mIrReN wrote:missed it's jet
passport issues to i erd
stupid Americans and their retard border patrol ;(
Re: Why didn't Garage take off in America?
Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 6:12 pm
by pkay
mIrReN wrote:
pkay wrote:
mIrReN wrote:missed it's jet
passport issues to i erd
stupid Americans and their retard border patrol ;(
Re: Why didn't Garage took off in America?
Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 7:41 pm
by Kochari
dj $hy wrote:
I was standing in a shop in Acton when Daniel himself walked in with his own white labels of Gotta Get Through this! I grabbed it, that tune was hot (if you can believe it) back in the day... !
I can believe it...Still a lot of love for that tune
"In your eyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyes!"
Re: Why didn't Garage take off in America?
Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 7:51 pm
by mIrReN
pkay wrote:
mIrReN wrote:
pkay wrote:
mIrReN wrote:missed it's jet
passport issues to i erd
stupid Americans and their retard border patrol ;(
Re: Why didn't Garage take off in America?
Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 7:57 pm
by wearecorsairs
me and my mates love garage, grime, bassline
i think americans are just stupid and don't like non-american music
which is funny because pretty much everything is just a rip off of a british band/artist atm
Re: Why didn't Garage take off in America?
Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 8:05 pm
by Today
like the Led Zeppelin, who were ripping off black American blues-ers
lol i actually agree with u i just love chatting about music cycles n influences
Trust me tho, classic's all the way!
