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Fractal wrote:
also

'I used to love H.E.R.' is one of my all-time favourite tracks.

eskay wrote:Stetasonic
Big Daddy Kane
Eric B & Rakim
BDP........

Oh and hijack & hardnoise

I'm in to all eras of hip hop, granted post 2000 is saturated with alot of shit in the charts, but still is hitting it with the likes of Madlib, Count Bass D, MF DOOM etc. Getting back into the electro boombap shit, NEwcleus, stets anyone got any recommendations?

since way back. Since my brother was dubbing me tapes with the cussing edited so my mother wouldnt flip.

stillaahiphophead

I'm soo bored of all the Hiphop heads are still stuck in the mid 90ties. I've been to so many party and the DJ was playing the same shit that I already heart 10 years ago.
And there is so much good stuff beeing released.
Big fan of Project Blowed, Shapeshifters, subversiv*rec, Project Mooncircle and so on

spiro wrote:

extra cee wrote:I am DJ'ing at a festival in Suffolk on the 21st July called Eastern Haze my set will be an hour of UK HipHop from 87 - 91 pulling out all them old gems from M.C. Mell'o' to Hijack to Gunshot etc.

You shoud try to record this! and post it here . . .
Not many people still spin oldschool uk rap !
bring in some bushkilla !!!

Do you have Back For More - Cash Crew? Now that is an absolutely stonking track. I've lost my copy though

empfänger wrote: Project Blowed, Shapeshifters,

LOL i went to school with these cats, but damn im not that old!!

there is a bunch of phenomenal rappers putting out records today...

Aceyalone
Akrobatik
*Awol One
*Breez evahflowin
*Brycon
Hiero
Cunninlynguists
Masta Ace
Copywrite
*iCON the Mic King
The Juggaknots
J-Zone
*louis logic and J.J. Brown
Masta Ace
C-Rayz Walz
*Pace Won
*Pack FM
Prince Paul
*R.A. the Rugged Man
Sabac Red
Goretex
Ill Bill (non phixion)
Souls of Mishcief (Hiero)
Tame One
Z Man
DefJux Camp
etc.

( * = way underrated)

Mobb deep (shook ones is a percy)


love dj shadow

feeling the old skool hip hop flavaz, didnt follow it massivly was pretty young, but im really in it.... BIG tunes....

cant stand it these days tho.

early-mid 90's hip hop forever. it's not a nostalgia thing. it's a music thing. imo, no one has touched premier, dre, bomb squad, pete rock or jdilla in nearly a decade of beats. it's almost as if they opened the door and slammed it shut behind them. mc's keep getting better but where are the beats with soul? where is the rawness? it's like you have to listen to 300 beats that bore you to hell to find 5 that you like.
in 1992, i liked nearly everything coming out.

Before I get into my list I have to say that I to prefer Grime over current UKHH as the energy reminds of "The Wrath of Kane"
My favorite UK MC has to be:

Durrty Goodz

He reminds me of the new Mike J (Demon Boyz) with the Ragga Hip Hop flow.

I like the way he tips his hat to Hijack and Demon Boyz on "Switching Songs pt 1" on his myspace http://www.myspace.com/officialdurrtygoodz

And his Axiom EP is incredible..


Old Skool

US

1. Big Daddy Kane/ Slick Rick
2. EPMD/BDP
3. Rakim/ Run DMC
4. Public Enemy
5. ICE CUBE/NWA
6. Biggie
7. Nas /Main source/Gangsta/Pete Rock & CL
8. Digital Underground/Souls of mischief/Pharcyde/DEL/Alcoholics
9. Tribe /Blacksheep/LONS/Naughty by Nature (Native Tounge)
10.Master Ace

UK

1. Demon Boyz
2. Hijack
3. London Posse
4. Overlord X
5. Blade
6. Monie Love
7. Silver Bullet
8. Caveman
9. MC Duke/MC Merlin/Cookie Crew

guerillaeye wrote:there is a bunch of phenomenal rappers putting out records today...

Aceyalone
Akrobatik
*Awol One
*Breez evahflowin
*Brycon
Hiero
Cunninlynguists
Masta Ace
Copywrite
*iCON the Mic King
The Juggaknots
J-Zone
*louis logic and J.J. Brown
Masta Ace
C-Rayz Walz
*Pace Won
*Pack FM
Prince Paul
*R.A. the Rugged Man
Sabac Red
Goretex
Ill Bill (non phixion)
Souls of Mishcief (Hiero)
Tame One
Z Man
DefJux Camp
etc.

( * = way underrated)

lol. Practically all those artists peaked in the mid-late 90s. TEN years ago.

Aceyalone had the sickest, sickest flow... in 1992. Since then he had been on steady decline, since 2002ish he might as well be a member of Dilated Peoples.

I love 90s hip hop. All the way from Raekwon to Freestyle Fellowship. But I've no time artists who cannot look beyond that aging formula, unable to innovate. 95% of UK hip hop beats are just piss poor faximilies of a 95 pete rock beat. What was fresh then is not fresh now. Like dnb artists today trying to be Source Direct. Even they sounded identical, they've still missing the whole point. How can you be an innovator by copying one. Plus lot those sign up to this mid 90s agenda are the same people that hate on Grime. It's like they dont "get" new music. Maybe a lot of them discovered hip hop in their teens, last decade, and they'd rather reminisce over those memory than engage with the present.

For me, a decent Clipse, Federation or a Juelz Santana track kills almost all of these aging, entropic mid 90s acts. And it's sad watching them slip into irrelevance. But that's where nostalgia and conservatism take you.

daddek wrote:

guerillaeye wrote:there is a bunch of phenomenal rappers putting out records today...

lol. Practically all those artists peaked in the mid-late 90s. TEN years ago.

again.. there is a bunch of new material on the market today. dont hate, appreciate. some of those artists are the innovators.. acey, breez, pack fm, etc.. others are fresh off the block. regardless, its new material and its the real ish.

seckle wrote:it's like you have to listen to 300 beats that bore you to hell to find 5 that you like.
in 1992, i liked nearly everything coming out.

Y'HEARD!!>!>


no, but seriously.

daddek wrote: For me, a decent Clipse, Federation or a Juelz Santana track kills almost all of these aging, entropic mid 90s acts.

DID YOU?!?!

guerillaeye wrote:
again.. there is a bunch of new material on the market today. dont hate, appreciate. some of those artists are the innovators.. acey, breez, pack fm, etc.. others are fresh off the block. regardless, its new material and its the real ish.

i'm failing to see your point. Blatantly, these artists are still putting out new material. And I actually love (or use to) most of the artists on your list. Point is, it's a shame you cant find any newer artists to name. Because your list of "fresh artists" looks like it could have been made 10 years ago.

Maybe that's because all new hip hop artists suck, maybe it's because you and most of this thread fail to engage or appreciate new forms hip hop (hyphy, clipse etc). Either way, it's sad.

relaks wrote:

daddek wrote: For me, a decent Clipse, Federation or a Juelz Santana track kills almost all of these aging, entropic mid 90s acts.

DID YOU?!?!

yep. you would too if u knew whats good.

Put hell hath no fury next to 3 feet high, and De La take it. Blatantly.

But put hell hath no fury next to any of the recent albums by De La, Mob Deep or Acey etc.. and the Clipse win it. By a fucking mile.

aging rappers man... not good.

daddek wrote:
i'm failing to see your point. Blatantly, these artists are still putting out new material.

blatantly.. you are just being a dick.

big up hyphy and crunk every time. grown man music

however, i guess thats where my personal discernment comes in.. when hip hop comes up in a conversation, for some reason i dont think we are talking about hyphy... maybe im too rooted in the 90s.

guerillaeye wrote: when hip hop comes up in a conversation, for some reason i dont think we are talking about hyphy...

i guess that's the crux of it right there.

you could call on rap vs hip hop argument, for validation of the mid 90s paradigm. Most graf artists dont listen to hip hop anymore, and breakers dont break to anything post 95, most turntablists still only play with 90s-orientated records, so maybe hip hop did die in 90s.

doesnt change the fact there's still bare new & exciting rap music coming out in 2007.

the best new hip hop album I've heard was Consequence's "Dont Quit your Day Job".

Daddek, I really don't like the albums you've pointed out. Certainly not the Clipse. Jay Z or Kanye west over the Clipse anytime.

And I doooo know whats good. What's really, really good?

What's good?!


Also, it's OKAY to not really like new rap music. Certainly doesn't keep me up at night.