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it'll be dead in a year

gwa wrote:it has no direction and no room to expand - like juke.

it's just another genre hyped up by fucking fact magazine to make it look cool to all the blog kids out there.

its just hiphop innit. people like it cos they like it - think you might be reading into it a bit much! if its not for you, fair enough - move along

i'd say 30% of the people who like it because they actually like it. the remaining 70% are kids wearing supreme t's and 5 panels they bought of ebay for 200 because a blog told them it was good.

i do like some of it but it gets a bit stale quick, doesn't it?

We got it, you don't like it. More tunes please

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i felt like venting some hatred this morning. sorry babes x

hip hop on everyone

gwa wrote:it has no direction and no room to expand - like juke.

you just negated the point you were trying to make
chicago footwork in early 2000s =/= the kind of hybridized juke and new directions people are taking it into now

i'm sure peeps said the same about dubstep when it was emerging and now you've got post-future-bass-you-name-it...

whether you like it or not is a different thing

this 'trap music' has its hip hop background - i know where juke came from.

i just think its a dead end over hyped blog loving genre that has a shelf life of approx. 12 months before fact magazine starting bumming some next sound

i think you may of misinterpreted what i meant by direction and room to expand

to me it's just 'filler' music

I don't really think a genre's lifespan matters, if you're enjoying it right now then continue doing so. If it grows stale, then drop it but I highly doubt all producers of this genre will all drop it completely. Time will tell, but I'm really feeling it for the moment anyway.

Does anyone know why its called trap

because originally the first trap artists was a fur trapper down in the south originally but set aside his old ways of trapping fur to take on music you see

wobbles wrote:because originally the first trap artists was a fur trapper down in the south originally but set aside his old ways of trapping fur to take on music you see

(I dont actually know!)

lol

think it goes back to the rap concept of 'the trap,' (or trappin) where drug deals happen -- dudes rapping about that tend to have beats that go hard on the kicks in that very bombastic kinda style, hence that strain of hip hop bein dubbed trap and now the more instrumental hybridized offshoots of it too

also was going to mention this earlier - maybe gwa & others see this (& juke) in that kind of light because it's removed so far from its context in the music market of 2012?

by that i mean trap music isn't really anything new in the slightest -- but the way that it's exploded onto the whole 'bass music' crowd is, and it's taken totally out of the context of southern rap & 'trap' in the american hip hop sense that i and many others were raised on in school.
happens to most things that spread like wildfire on the net these days really... take dubstep in north america, in an arena setting, with kids who have absolutely no background in the kind of culture that dubstep grew out of in the UK and hence will probably have no attachment to it when the next trend comes through in a couple years' time...

Southern trap music, ie, lil jon, swizz beatz, david banner, is fucking trash. Its the brostep of hiphop

wobbles wrote:because originally the first trap artists was a fur trapper down in the south originally but set aside his old ways of trapping fur to take on music you see

and this is why you may hear a lot of beaver trap and gunshot samples in trap music

bela wrote:also was going to mention this earlier - maybe gwa & others see this (& juke) in that kind of light because it's removed so far from its context in the music market of 2012?

by that i mean trap music isn't really anything new in the slightest -- but the way that it's exploded onto the whole 'bass music' crowd is, and it's taken totally out of the context of southern rap & 'trap' in the american hip hop sense that i and many others were raised on in school.
happens to most things that spread like wildfire on the net these days really... take dubstep in north america, in an arena setting, with kids who have absolutely no background in the kind of culture that dubstep grew out of in the UK and hence will probably have no attachment to it when the next trend comes through in a couple years' time...

Qft

Gwa is almost right

and that's coming from someone who loves a lot of the stuff in this thread. It does seem that often there is a tendency to jump on anything that has any strand of this style of hip hop production at the moment

However. There are some incredibly energetic, inventive and interesting tunes out there and some of the djs mentioned here are playing some of the most enjoyable sets around at the moment.

The issue is that there's far too many suburban white dudes with internet connections getting a boner over anything with a big ass 808 kick drum. Same way that there's loads of dudes thinking anything with repetitive vocal samples and drum machine sounds is juke/footwork (do they even know the difference between the two? Probably not especially as they're calling Addison Groove juke).

But then this goes for how many people only play "dungeon" and no other strand of dubstep when they dj

or how many people suddenly have realised house music exists and play painfully dull "deep" dj sets.

It's all relative. So Gwa, yeah I see your point mate but every genre is doing this now.

So let's carry on posting the quality tunes and not worry about the internet hype around it or hate over what is the "brostep of hip hop".

I'm not bothered about the trends or image any tunes here are associated with. I just want something I can listen to at the club, in the car, play in a dj set, listen to drinking with mates. Whatever

(I'm really drunk)