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Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2006 12:02 am
by autonomic
auralassassin wrote:Hey, anyone wanna come fuck 8bit's lady... I'm not GIVING her away, but anyone who wants to can SHARE her.
this is a really stupid analogy

and this whole argument is pointless. ben ufo is right. let's all go to other threads now.

Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2006 12:04 am
by ufo over easy
autonomic wrote:ben ufo is right. let's all go to other threads now.
hah, I guess I didnt really lead by example.. :D

Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2006 12:05 am
by 8bitwonder
flaviano wrote:I'll buy the vinyl when it's music I actually know the producer has put their heart and soul into. But if you expect me to pay £13 for a CD by some commerical shitesters which I'll only run through my laptop anyway, then you got another thing coming.

Piracy - try and target multinational capitalist mafias, not the friends (or friends of friends, or friends of friends of friends, or forumates, or whatever) who are building the beats you blaze to every day.
i dont know what people want me to say

think it should be locked this topic

all i wanted was an mp3 and i did say if possible that it was free,i have paid for and will continue to pay for mp3's through online stores so you lot cut me some slack

i write music im not a preacher or record label expert or blah blah blah

piracy will continue wherever its fact-it the upmost efforts to beat it it goes on everyday

please people chill-no need to fuss and fight

Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2006 12:09 am
by 8bitwonder
how did this start-go back to the first post on this thread

Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2006 12:20 am
by clone.a.k.
seriously strange that people are arguing about music that we all have on mixes. i steal from people that have more than me, large corp's.
they will still be okay even if they go bankrupt, which is not the case for me, i would be a bum.that's where i draw my line in the sand,while it is acurvy dotted line! ha
definately no room in mydubspace for breakin' knees. that's stupid.

Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2006 12:37 am
by mrjiggyfly
Image

Take one ,it's free :lol: :lol:

Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2006 12:59 am
by auralassassin
Well... DMZ and HotFlush are doing pretty good, so I'm thinking I'll just rip all my vinyl and hand them out on SLSK... I'll give you all my username when I get done ripping them.

How dare I defend those who are keeping it real?

What was I thinking? I'm just an asshole who wants people to *GASP* pay for a product.

Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2006 1:10 am
by clone.a.k.
MRJIGGYFLY wrote:Image

Take one ,it's free :lol: :lol:
i'll take eight and a rolled up jiggyspecial
with all the fixins!

Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2006 3:02 am
by doomstep
:lol:

Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2006 10:32 am
by paulie
People who steal music off independent labels deserve to die.

Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2006 10:37 am
by dubway
seckle wrote:People spend 4 pounds on a pint of beer, but won't spend 1 pound buying an mp3 that lasts for years?
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should (dubstep) music be exclusive only to those 10% who live in dark brown area? only to those with high standard (money)? (i thought that's not what dubstep is about..)

should we kill the bastards form central africa cos they used slsk on his collage pc (mmm.. what collage? what pc?) and maybe heard a few dubstep tracks?

yeah.. your logic works nice in London or New York.. but how many ppl live there?


i'm sure true artists (and dubstep is still led by them) would be glad if their music put a smile on someones face.. much more than with couple of quids..

only that attitude led me to buying vynils.. not any kind of pressure..


it's not my war.. but be real..

you can't judge others by your standard

Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2006 10:42 am
by paulie
Sorry mate, that's a non-argument. There's plenty of free dubstep people can download without stealing stuff that myself and others are breaking our backs trying to sell.

Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2006 10:42 am
by 8bitwonder
dubway wrote:
seckle wrote:People spend 4 pounds on a pint of beer, but won't spend 1 pound buying an mp3 that lasts for years?
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should (dubstep) music be exclusive only to those 10% who live in dark brown area? only to those with high standard (money)? (i thought that's not what dubstep is about..)

should we kill the bastards form central africa cos they used slsk on his collage pc (mmm.. what collage? what pc?) and maybe heard a few dubstep tracks?

yeah.. your logic works nice in London or New York.. but how many ppl live there?


i'm sure true artists (and dubstep is still led by them) would be glad if their music put a smile on someones face.. much more than with couple of quids..

only that attitude led me to buying vynils.. not any kind of pressure..


it's not my war.. but be real..

you can't judge others by your standard
made my peace in the forum no need to carry this on guys--i quote-''opinions are like assholes everyone got one''

Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2006 10:52 am
by dubway
Paulie wrote:Sorry mate, that's a non-argument. There's plenty of free dubstep people can download without stealing stuff that myself and others are breaking our backs trying to sell.
that's true in this particular (dubstep) scene at this particular moment..
but i don't even have to give other scenes for example: just try to remember how many free dubstep for download could you find in the same time last year? none (or maybe one or two mixes)

and from their point of view, that's a non-argument too - cos for them it's the same thing - legal or unlegal - on your label or free - it's only music to them.. not goods..

of course, artists should live from what they do.. and live good..
but i don't think capitalism articulates it right..

ok.. i was raized in socialism :P i can't understand you..

Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2006 10:56 am
by spaceboy
if I can get music for free I aint paying.

Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2006 11:13 am
by ufo over easy
Paulie wrote:Sorry mate, that's a non-argument. There's plenty of free dubstep people can download without stealing stuff that myself and others are breaking our backs trying to sell.
What difference does it make if they were never going to be able to buy it in the first place?

As far as I'm concerned militant attitudes on both sides of the argument are part of the problem.

Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2006 11:17 am
by Tombones
Personally, I don't like mp3s, yeah they have their uses, but there's nothing like vinyl, and this is comin from someone who doesn't mix. I think if people really do have a love for the music, they'll want to pay for it - if they can. I've downloaded a lot of stuff in the last couple of years, but most of thats been old stuff. The only reason I've this done is because I can't afford to buy a lot of the music I want to hear, especial when its rare and hard to find - why should I pay some twat on ebay a ridiculous amount of money, none of which the artist will ever see?! I think when you're talking about new music though, especially music on small labels, then there really is a moral issue.

Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2006 11:20 am
by dubway
Paulie wrote:Sorry mate, that's a non-argument. There's plenty of free dubstep people can download without stealing stuff that myself and others are breaking our backs trying to sell.
sorry.. my logic is working again..

that's a non-argument mate!

if you sell your music - then we can assume that it's more quality than free download music (otherwise - who and why would anyone buy it?!)

so, what you are saying is that someone who lives in africa is not allowed to hear first class music, but only second class free download for pour?

that's true.. that's how it works..

but i don't like it.. especially when it's something as music..

you stole that music form africa!!! :lol:
have you payed for using their rhythms and instruments :evil: (this is a joke, but every joke is half true)


i know that this has little to do with dubstep, but i can't go over it..

Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2006 11:21 am
by spaceboy
^dont get me started on colonialisation!

they knicked BARE shit man.

Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2006 11:22 am
by dubway
UFO over easy wrote:
Paulie wrote:Sorry mate, that's a non-argument. There's plenty of free dubstep people can download without stealing stuff that myself and others are breaking our backs trying to sell.
What difference does it make if they were never going to be able to buy it in the first place?
that's what i said before.. it's same thing for them..