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Re: Oh Mai Gawd Live 9
Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2012 2:33 am
by Perej
subfect wrote:Ohhhh, you need ableton live to beatbox huh? Think you need to know what a mic and recording does my friend
I would like to see a lot more workflow improvements (they've done some with the folder/browse area). Having favourite destinations would be a good one. I have constant problems with copying automation.etc. from one track to another - only seems to work half the time (and I own a legit version, have done for a while). A revisited UI in general would be nice - still has the same crappy UI that it first came out with. Support for mp3 would be a boon - can't believe they still don't have it.
Don't get me wrong, I think it's great they're working on the next release - but considering Live 8 was released late 2009 - and we're almost 2013 - 4 years for this? What the hell have they been doing? Really... In that time we've had a number of new DAWs that really pack some modern punch, such as Reaper & Sonar X1 which take a modern approach to production. I think Ableton has been lazy, tbh.
the fact that you can beat-box into a DAW and it automatically reads the harmonics of your voice and places them into a midi clip with accurate precision doesn't impress you even a bit?
Re: Oh Mai Gawd Live 9
Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2012 2:35 am
by subfect
Also I think their move for a Push controller is stupid from a business pov. AKAI Is a huge partner and helps to push their products, they're stepping on some big toes. They should have worked with them rather than do it themselves. Not to mention that NI has a far more superior product in the form of Maschine.
@Perej - I wasn't aware of that feature, and that is pretty cool - but in all honesty it has zero relevance for me - I don't beatbox. hehe
Re: Oh Mai Gawd Live 9
Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2012 3:13 am
by Perej
subfect wrote:Also I think their move for a Push controller is stupid from a business pov. AKAI Is a huge partner and helps to push their products, they're stepping on some big toes. They should have worked with them rather than do it themselves. Not to mention that NI has a far more superior product in the form of Maschine.
@Perej - I wasn't aware of that feature, and that is pretty cool - but in all honesty it has zero relevance for me - I don't beatbox. hehe
it's not beatboxing it's everything. If you put in a drum loop it will automatically detect what each drum is and appropriately chop it up in midi exactly as it is in the audio. Put in a sample of a piano and it will tell you straight away the keys and chords etc. Amazing stuff tbh.
Re: Oh Mai Gawd Live 9
Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2012 3:27 am
by subfect
That is pretty neat. Bye-bye ear-based production
Re: Oh Mai Gawd Live 9
Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2012 5:28 am
by Attila
subfect wrote:Also I think their move for a Push controller is stupid from a business pov. AKAI Is a huge partner and helps to push their products, they're stepping on some big toes. They should have worked with them rather than do it themselves. Not to mention that NI has a far more superior product in the form of Maschine.
@Perej - I wasn't aware of that feature, and that is pretty cool - but in all honesty it has zero relevance for me - I don't beatbox. hehe
But the Push is being made by AKAI...? Unless you meant Novation?
Designed by Ableton, built by Akai: Push features 64 pressure and velocity-sensitive RGB (multi-colored) pads with an adaptive layout, plus a touch strip with 24 LEDs for pitch bending or navigating through a drum rack. 11 touch-sensitive endless encoders and a four line LCD display adapt dynamically to control and show instrument and effect parameters.
And I don't see how having Live auto convert mp3's to wav's is a big deal when you drag them in, it literally adds no time to the process.
Re: Oh Mai Gawd Live 9
Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2012 5:47 am
by subfect
Okay, I'm being proven wrong on a few things here... damnit. My attempt at anti-ableton sentiment is coming to a close...
Attila - no I was referring to the ability to export tunes as mp3. It's a small thing, but a thing nonetheless when all other DAWs support it. heh
Re: Oh Mai Gawd Live 9
Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2012 5:52 am
by Mazak
I'm definitely going to consider buying Push. I just hope bitwig releases before 9 so I don't blow my wad on Push plus 9 and regret it.
Re: Oh Mai Gawd Live 9
Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2012 6:22 am
by Attila
subfect wrote:Okay, I'm being proven wrong on a few things here... damnit. My attempt at anti-ableton sentiment is coming to a close...
Attila - no I was referring to the ability to export tunes as mp3. It's a small thing, but a thing nonetheless when all other DAWs support it. heh
Gotcha man. Yeah I agree on exporting though, it'd be nice to be able to export it as both simultaneously.
Re: Oh Mai Gawd Live 9
Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2012 9:15 am
by Depone
Right this whole beatbox to midi thing has been available to logic pro users since version 9 around 2 years ago.
Even the music note detection. Turning your recorded audio to midi and sampler has only been a right click away for logic.
Re: Oh Mai Gawd Live 9
Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2012 10:44 am
by paradigm_x
their new website/forum is painful to look at
anyone want to buy live 8 download? whats it worth these days.
Re: Oh Mai Gawd Live 9
Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2012 1:47 pm
by Perej
Depone wrote:Right this whole beatbox to midi thing has been available to logic pro users since version 9 around 2 years ago.
Even the music note detection. Turning your recorded audio to midi and sampler has only been a right click away for logic.
how? can you provide the commands please?
Re: Oh Mai Gawd Live 9
Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2012 2:26 pm
by fuz
There is a similar feature in Ableton. (slice to midi or something like this).
Am I the only one fniding this posts "Please make Ableton a Logic Pro look-alike!!! it's 2013 goddamit" really annoying?
One screen, no-bullshit UI, simple features : this is how I like Ableton. I'm happy they stay this way.
Re: Oh Mai Gawd Live 9
Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2012 5:19 pm
by _TraX_
I don't use Ableton 9 but I'm liking that Push controller..
Re: Oh Mai Gawd Live 9
Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2012 5:51 pm
by siperdellyeer
-TraX- wrote:I don't use Ableton 9 but I'm liking that Push controller..
nobody uses ableton 9 here
Re: Oh Mai Gawd Live 9
Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2012 11:13 pm
by Depone
Perej wrote:Depone wrote:Right this whole beatbox to midi thing has been available to logic pro users since version 9 around 2 years ago.
Even the music note detection. Turning your recorded audio to midi and sampler has only been a right click away for logic.
how? can you provide the commands please?
Hit up the flex time! then right click audio to new sampler instrument. or use the drum replacer i think.
For the musical notes, open the audio into the audio editor and goto function -> audio to score.
Re: Oh Mai Gawd Live 9
Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2012 3:06 am
by Attila
Depone wrote:Right this whole beatbox to midi thing has been available to logic pro users since version 9 around 2 years ago.
Even the music note detection. Turning your recorded audio to midi and sampler has only been a right click away for logic.
...good for you guys?
Re: Oh Mai Gawd Live 9
Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2012 2:36 pm
by AxeD
In a few years, every single 'music production' tool will be released right before christmas..
and written off the next year around the same time.
NI is doing the same thing imo.
Re: Oh Mai Gawd Live 9
Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2012 7:59 pm
by _TraX_
siperdellyeer wrote:-TraX- wrote:I don't use Ableton 9 but I'm liking that Push controller..
nobody uses ableton 9 here
Ableton in general. I hate it.
Re: Oh Mai Gawd Live 9
Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2012 8:34 pm
by OfficialDAPT
-TraX- wrote:siperdellyeer wrote:-TraX- wrote:I don't use Ableton 9 but I'm liking that Push controller..
nobody uses ableton 9 here
Ableton in general. I hate it.
Ableton live 9 is just unusable for me too.
Re: Oh Mai Gawd Live 9
Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2012 2:36 pm
by Perej
Depone wrote:Perej wrote:Depone wrote:Right this whole beatbox to midi thing has been available to logic pro users since version 9 around 2 years ago.
Even the music note detection. Turning your recorded audio to midi and sampler has only been a right click away for logic.
how? can you provide the commands please?
Hit up the flex time! then right click audio to new sampler instrument. or use the drum replacer i think.
For the musical notes, open the audio into the audio editor and goto function -> audio to score.
Ah that's cool, but Ableton is way faster than Logic regardless.