OK, there's a lot of chatting grease in this thread, but here goes:
Lovelyidiot, why do you even need to "approach" a DJ in a club to get into mixing? Just buy the gear and get started. Promote yourself like most do nowadays, through soundcloud and shit. Make good mixes, start talking to some producers, get some dubs off them perhaps, start talking to promoters doing shows in your area.
The first step isn't strolling up to DJ Locally Moderately Successful and asking about how to mix on a big system or whatever. And even if you did do that, is the possibility that he MIGHT think you're hitting on him such a gigantic problem?
Even if he thinks that, do you think he'll go "Yeah, I was gonna tell you about EQing tips like you asked, but then I noticed you're a lady, so fuck DJ talk, let's go back to my place and have sex!".
Re: feminine issues in electronic music...
Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 8:10 pm
by lovelydivot
Interesting Harkat - I think there are a few things that you are not understanding about the scene here in the states.
It's simultaneously gigantic and virtually non-existent...
That means - there are no local scenes - and the scenes in the big cities are so over the top competitive that you literally have to be skilled beyond belief to step up.
I'm just looking for the farmteam if you get what I mean...I don't care about doing parties - I just want a good set of friends to build with.
Like I said - I probably just need to move to the area where things are happening - wherever that is now...
Approaching semi-random men is one area where the feminine issues begin to happen for me.
- but what am I supposed to do - my friends don't spin records - most of my friends are visual artists.
Most guys dislike having their time usurped by unattractive females - Unattractive guys still carry weight.
Nobody questions the suspiscious ho rating of a guy that approaches.
Re: feminine issues in electronic music...
Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 9:31 pm
by lovelydivot
One of the reasons I stepped away from the underground in my area was because kids were booting heroin and stealing from their friends...
I'm gonna be really honest here...Even though I don't have lots of equipment - I have enough to feel pain if it got stolen.
and my record collection - had to be insured.
Re: feminine issues in electronic music...
Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 10:25 pm
by topmo3
They re in the way at best
Re: feminine issues in electronic music...
Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 10:30 pm
by lovelydivot
I just re-attached the one old soundcloud mix that I have up...below
The second half is better - I got bored with the dubstep tempo and started reachin' for the funky d+b again...
I should just start mixing more - specifically just to post things up...old d+b never gets old anyway
The internet really has been my savior since the scene has been rotting...The American Scene - Rahtid since 1997
Re: feminine issues in electronic music...
Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 2:24 am
by kingGhost
the point is that you're just searching for things to complain about. get some decks and have a mix, ffs
I suppose an option is talk to some local DJs in your position, as in not getting spots at raves. Pool your resources and put on a night.
Re: feminine issues in electronic music...
Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 11:53 am
by Ficticious
Plenty of woman producers and DJ's that are awesome' out there. If you want to learn how to mix with somebody (supposing that's different than what you already know?) find one friend who loves music and mixing as much as you do. It's really whatever, long as you don't try to ask while they are playing their set. (Common sense). Don't think you'd do that anyway. assuming you even got the chance to ask)
as far as venues and rising through the ranks or what have you' well (common sense again) like everyone says, know what's sketch, ask about. Have a good friend in the industry who already knows what's up, if you don't. Do research. (minus some of the asking, seems like you're already doing that.)
and, if you were polite and the person says no' don't feel down some people just like to do their own thing and some are more comfortable with kicking it etc.
Local would seem like it would be the most logical place to start specially if you're trying to build a circle of friends in the same thing.
Re: feminine issues in electronic music...
Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 12:03 pm
by magma
Who the fuck asks a stranger in a club to be a "mixing partner"?
That's not a feminine issue. Guys don't do that either.
This whole thread is a mental health issue.
Re: feminine issues in electronic music...
Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 12:04 pm
by Phase Down
waste thread waste female
Re: feminine issues in electronic music...
Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 12:19 pm
by Ficticious
magma wrote:Who the fuck asks a stranger in a club to be a "mixing partner"?
That's not a feminine issue. Guys don't do that either.
This whole thread is a mental health issue.
That is true.
Strangerdanger, Then after that there's no other option except forcing your friend into mixing with you
Though there's nothing wrong with meeting new people, knowing them for a while and then asking if you mix and chill out too and get along haha...
Re: feminine issues in electronic music...
Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 12:49 pm
by LACE
as always, i think you guys are being a little rough towards our dame BM of SNH. though this thread has gone as far as it can go, the only thing you can do is make friends who mix BM. go to the club, make friends. it's not easy but it's definitely not impossible. and you know as well as i attractiveness does matter but you gotta work with what you got darl.
Re: feminine issues in electronic music...
Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 1:19 pm
by magma
Sorry, I was a bit harsh.
If it helps, most of the people I've ever tried to make music with, I met online first. (The band I used to be in came from http://www.formaband.co.uk/ and pretty much anyone I've mucked about with electronic music with came from forums like this) I don't really know anyone that met the people they make music with in a noisy club unless they were both already performers on the bill and came up with a side project to do together - the club's not even the best place to find a shit lay, let a lone someone on your wavelength artistically.
I'm sure it is harder for girls to pull together a team, but nobody's doing it in the way BM thinks she should be able to do it... it's not misogyny making her method a bad idea, it's the bad idea making it a bad idea.
Re: feminine issues in electronic music...
Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 1:33 pm
by joeki
Why don't you just come out and say what you want to say here. Say what the issues are instead of asking how we (males in this case) regard them or what we THINK your issues could be.