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Re: Do you think abstract art should be considered art?
Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2013 4:13 pm
by exfox
lovelydivot wrote:You know - I really want to explain ...
But part of their genius - Is when you have finally lived and thought enough to get it...
That epiphanous moment when your own mind reveals something really funny in the driest way...

Re: Do you think abstract art should be considered art?
Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2013 5:14 pm
by syrup
garethom wrote:murky21 wrote:haha I'm just pulling your leg. sure u know more about those dudes than most (certainly me)
That turner is a beaut. Definitely a heavyweight of the abstract game.
Rain Steam and Speed is also a percy

that's a banger painting man, big up.
pull that shit up
Re: Do you think abstract art should be considered art?
Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2013 5:47 pm
by Mason
jorge wrote:Its kind of like asking is electronic music really music
not really, for some pieces it's like asking if a sine wave playing for 2 seconds every 3 minutes for an hour is music.
Re: Do you think abstract art should be considered art?
Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2013 5:57 pm
by Words
how is this a thread in 2013
Re: Do you think abstract art should be considered art?
Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2013 6:21 pm
by jorge
Mason wrote:jorge wrote:Its kind of like asking is electronic music really music
not really, for some pieces it's like asking if a sine wave playing for 2 seconds every 3 minutes for an hour is music.
yeah for
some pieces, and your welcome to question whether they are art or if that is music but it doesn't say anything about abstract art or electronic music in general.
No analogy is perfect but I think that one is pretty good, specially considering there is a degree of abstraction to most electronic music.
anyway this discussion is a couple of centuries too late and even then it was silly.
lets just look at pictures
Kandinsky is one of my favourites, think he was inspired alot by music aswell.

Re: Do you think abstract art should be considered art?
Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2013 8:44 pm
by garethom
Bun Kadinsky man, all his stuff looks like an opening screen for Encarta.
Re: Do you think abstract art should be considered art?
Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2013 8:57 pm
by cloquet
Yes.
Mason wrote:jorge wrote:Its kind of like asking is electronic music really music
not really, for some pieces it's like asking if a sine wave playing for 2 seconds every 3 minutes for an hour is music.
That is music.
Re: Do you think abstract art should be considered art?
Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2013 9:17 pm
by wolf89
Yes
Re: Do you think abstract art should be considered art?
Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2013 11:05 pm
by garethom
Read about how loads of the impressionist artists had eye problems that probably meant their paintings where closer to what they actually saw than we think.
Re: Do you think abstract art should be considered art?
Posted: Sat Apr 13, 2013 12:51 am
by skimpi
I went to one of the gallerys, and there was a bin that they had to put some barrier around cos it was actually a piece, and people kept putting rubbish in it thinking it was a real bin

Re: Do you think abstract art should be considered art?
Posted: Sat Apr 13, 2013 3:14 am
by cloquet
skimpi wrote:I went to one of the gallerys, and there was a bin that they had to put some barrier around cos it was actually a piece, and people kept putting rubbish in it thinking it was a real bin

maybe that was the intention, that people would mistake it for a bin & contribute to the piece?
Re: Do you think abstract art should be considered art?
Posted: Sat Apr 13, 2013 8:48 am
by exfox
Mason wrote:jorge wrote:Its kind of like asking is electronic music really music
not really, for some pieces it's like asking if a sine wave playing for 2 seconds every 3 minutes for an hour is music.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lowercase_(music)
Re: Do you think abstract art should be considered art?
Posted: Sat Apr 13, 2013 11:04 am
by kay
Are the two Turners that have been posted considered abstract? They look pretty realistic to me, if a bit stylised. You know, sorta like a photo captured through a number of lenses, filters, blurry glass panes and then processed in a certain way. Wouldn't a photo like that be just considered photography instead of abstract photography?
Re: Do you think abstract art should be considered art?
Posted: Sat Apr 13, 2013 4:02 pm
by skimpi
cloquet wrote:skimpi wrote:I went to one of the gallerys, and there was a bin that they had to put some barrier around cos it was actually a piece, and people kept putting rubbish in it thinking it was a real bin

maybe that was the intention, that people would mistake it for a bin & contribute to the piece?
why would they put a barrier round it though? just had a couple bits of gum stuck to the bottom of it
At the same exhibition, there was like some clothes on show and a live model just standing there wearing one of them. Turns out she was only there for a couple hours one day a week and happened to be the time i was there.
Re: Do you think abstract art should be considered art?
Posted: Sat Apr 13, 2013 9:54 pm
by lovelydivot
I had fun in the art museum just last week - I took one of my little cousins Jacob - a 6 year old...
and in the Duchamp room - They have that piece set up where you have to peek through a hole in a door...
and it a voyeuristic thing - you see some gash...
and I spent like 20 minutes in there with him going back and forth...
him wanting to see - then not wanting because he was "scared"...
I told him I'd lift him up if he really wanted to know...
but we decided to go back next year instead - and maybe he would be ready to see then...
I was laughing the whole time...
He loved the Cy Twombly room...all kids seem to love Cy Twombly
this is exactly where we were sitting...

Re: Do you think abstract art should be considered art?
Posted: Sat Apr 13, 2013 10:29 pm
by hifi
you mean stuff like mark rothko? yea
teebs makes art as well that i'd consider pretty abstract

Re: Do you think abstract art should be considered art?
Posted: Sat Apr 13, 2013 10:31 pm
by hifi
magma wrote:Yes, next question.
but firstly answer my mine : (
Re: Do you think abstract art should be considered art?
Posted: Sat Apr 13, 2013 10:38 pm
by extremesociety
Yes.
/thread
Re: Do you think abstract art should be considered art?
Posted: Sat Apr 13, 2013 11:19 pm
by hifi
though hieronymus bosch was next level for 15th century renaissance/early netherlandish art. surreal
before surrealism

Re: Do you think abstract art should be considered art?
Posted: Sat Apr 13, 2013 11:31 pm
by Gewze
anyone got any abstract surrealism