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had a mate called ******
cos he was very dark from sitting in the sun all day
no aspersions...just skin colour

there's a fish here
glossy black
almost exclusively eats green weed
fishermen used to call em ******.
Even allowing for racism
I kinda doubt it was because they considered them inferior eating

but, of course, if a black fisherman used the term now days
he'd be entitled because he wouldn't be being racist

not that I don't understand resentment of the way the term has been used
as a degrading put down
but if you are gunna claim racism by asserting your power to appropriate terms,
may I suggest that it's better to watch your own mouth (if I was gunna be unnecessarily confrontative here I'd add "******"
but I'm disinclined to unnecessarily provoke feelings of injustice and discrimination)
which is pretty much all I can do without disrespecting my own (incidental & beyond my control) skip roots.

imo you should be allowed to say whatever you want. words can be offensive because of the context they're used in. if you use a certain word and someone got offended, it's on them not you. too much political correctness going around anyway

^yes, but why cause offense just for the sake of it? Doesn't seem right for a white person to call a black person a n*gger or a straight person to call a gay person a f*ggot, that's not "political correctness", that's just being a decent person and not being a tnuc. Yes I suppose you could say it's their fault for being offended, but really you're just trying to excuse homophobia/racism. Whether you like it or not or you think it's stupid or call it "political correctness", but there's certain words which just shouldn't be used in certain contexts IMO.

nowaysj wrote:Hardkat, I'm holding you personally responsible for this thread.

this was not my intention

Its only okay if u are singing a rap and ur going so hard that u don't want to break ur flow

white people are the worst

topmo3 wrote:official niqqa rules á la me

"n i g g e r" spelled with the -er at the end is a hateful word imo used by the KKK, white supremacists in the youtube comment section and other scum of the earth

"n i g g a" on the other hand is just another word for "dude" that is only appropriate for white people to use when citing song lyrics or in very special situations where you're with friends (black or white) who know you're making a joke or something and you're not a racist. never to be said to a black person you barely know, that's the worst.

all in all it's a strong word and you must be careful about the context. provided you're not a izan asshole

black people can use the word whenever and however they please imo. one of the lamest points ever to make is the whole commotion about black people's privilege to use the word. i can say cracker or honky as much as i want lol but i'm offended if a person of different colour calls me that

ultraspatial wrote:imo you should be allowed to say whatever you want. words can be offensive because of the context they're used in. if you use a certain word and someone got offended, it's on them not you. too much political correctness going around anyway

Think this is slightly different from PC conduct

nowaysj wrote:

kidshuffle wrote:I have no problems with white people saying nigga provided black people are allowed to start calling white people niggers

I've spoken with my constituency, and we agree to the terms of your offer. White people now can be openly called niggers.

California you progressive ass niiggers.

johney wrote:

topmo3 wrote:official niqqa rules á la me

"n i g g e r" spelled with the -er at the end is a hateful word imo used by the KKK, white supremacists in the youtube comment section and other scum of the earth

"n i g g a" on the other hand is just another word for "dude" that is only appropriate for white people to use when citing song lyrics or in very special situations where you're with friends (black or white) who know you're making a joke or something and you're not a racist. never to be said to a black person you barely know, that's the worst.

all in all it's a strong word and you must be careful about the context. provided you're not a izan asshole

black people can use the word whenever and however they please imo. one of the lamest points ever to make is the whole commotion about black people's privilege to use the word. i can say cracker or honky as much as i want lol but i'm offended if a person of different colour calls me that

the real issue here.

Yes, language is all in the context and yes, words should only be considered offensive when they're used offensively, but the most important questions in all this are - "Does it matter?" and "Is it worth it?"

Do you need to use the N-Word in an inoffensive context so badly that you're happy to be misunderstood by strangers as a racist? Is it worth the hassle of invoking one of the most volatile words in the English language, risking possible physical confrontation, to say "my n-word" when "mate" would achieve the same effect? Is it really worth anyone, Black or White, trying to respell or "redefine" a word who's sole reason for existence is racism? Wouldn't it be a lot less hassle for everyone if we just drew a line under it and admitted that it hasn't served a unique linguistic purpose (i.e. where a non-offensive synonym would not suffice) for over half a century?

I find myself replacing it with "Ninja" or "Maaan" when I'm singing along to something. It's not really very hard... certainly easier than explaining to someone that you can't be a racist because you know all the words to Black On Both Sides and once shook Mala's hand.

magma wrote: if we just drew a line under it and admitted that it hasn't served a unique linguistic purpose .

holding together rap lyrics is quite a unique linguistic purpose.

butter man wrote:

magma wrote: if we just drew a line under it and admitted that it hasn't served a unique linguistic purpose .

holding together rap lyrics is quite a unique linguistic purpose.

NWA.



Ninjas With Attitudes

butter man wrote:

magma wrote: if we just drew a line under it and admitted that it hasn't served a unique linguistic purpose .

holding together rap lyrics is quite a unique linguistic purpose.

it's interesting that it has that purpose along with other words like 'fucking' and 'bitch' to keep the rap to the meter without adding much meaning, not dissimilar to homeric epic poetry in that

RKM wrote:

butter man wrote:

magma wrote: if we just drew a line under it and admitted that it hasn't served a unique linguistic purpose .

holding together rap lyrics is quite a unique linguistic purpose.

it's interesting that it has that purpose along with other words like 'fucking' and 'bitch' to keep the rap to the meter without adding much meaning, not dissimilar to homeric epic poetry in that

and the famous "uhhhhhh" "uh-huh" or "yo...yo".

word

if white boys could drop the N-bomb, how much conscious/backpacker rap would be eliminated?