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If you cant afford any vsts and other software. I don't recommend it but a friend of mine is a torrent maniac.

The form of compensation that imo is going on that makes a plug like massive stand out, is not the nice routing capabilities that can bring something unique out of it but more about how drastically the filters are coloured.

If you create a filter envelope with some rather drastic or 'daring' settings (I'm looking for a better term lol) and try that out on top of a bunch of synths - then massive wont appear so 'remarkable' anymore.

It's cool that it has several oscilators but that side of it is also terribly fidgety compaired with more dedicated multi osc soft synths.

tbh i do have illegal shit notproud of it but on the other hand i start to realize that the freeware and especially light versions all that isnt worse at all you just need maybe more time to get what you want but sometimes you get even more out of a freeware synth than you could hope for

so i can understand that massive, nexus etc is very appealing but i agree with hubb (as far as i understood it)
you can create nearly the same sounds with effect chains (nexus maybe being a bad example cause its sample based and uses real synths as far as i know as the source kinda a stripped down sampler)

yes and yes to the nexus bit

I think the technical terms is a rompler

i dont remember what a rom is though but yeah some sampled material of some sort


i think we can expect some serious ir impulse 'romplers' down the line which could be awesome as substituion for exp hardw synths

its a bit like if they photograph a circuit instead of building one as it is now, but with more processing power i think we'll be able to do physical stuff virtually and we'll only have to shit our pants physically

yeah man
i think it might be possible someday
but yeah maybe rom has sth to do with those old cardridges dunno i think i read sth in connectoin to m1 synth

ROM - read only memory. It can't be written but is persistent, when the juice is turned off, the memory stays, as opposed to RAM random access memory, which can be written but is usually not persistent, meaning, you turn off the juice and the memory is forgotten.

Your Nerd Tax Is Due.

I have Random Only Memory

I have hubb love, you are a madly underrated member of this forum.

Who says he is under rated? He's the champ.

awww guys right bakkacxhu

If i had to choose only 3 soft of each.

Synths :
U-he Diva (Can't beat this analogish sound/damn my CPU)
Reaktor Razor (So easy to use and you can get almost any sound of it)<Beginner
Massive or Fm8 (dem synthz capability)

Reverb :
Valhalla Room (Anything valhalla is damnlush) <Beginner
2c Audio Aether (dem algorythmz)

Compression / Transcient shaper / Disto
PSP Audioware stuff (All of them)
U-he Satin (Tape saturation, tape delay, one of the best software ever)
Izotope Trash, Camelphat, there is a lot of nice plugins for this. Waves stuff of course.

Eq / Stereo tools / Mastering:
Dmg Audio Eq quick / Dualism (but all Dmg audio, get Eq quick and dualism first) <Beginner
Izotope Ozone..

There is a lot of additional stuff but that's my go to software.
I would recommend killing it with stock plugins in the beginning. Even more if you'r in ableton since they are prettily easy to learn and mastering them can get you a long way

(Anything valhalla is damnlush)

I think there are some good free plugins listed on here:http://bedroomproducersblog.com/free-vst-plugins/
I would just use free stuff til u are sure u are serious then I'd go into the other stuff.
Best plugins I've ever seen (for realness value)would be all the UAD stuff AMD the soundtoys echo boy. The had is like impossible to crack tho