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Joe C wrote:my point was that the people guiding are not taking sides, so why should we?

it's a back and forth thing

the more people into minimal and deep say they dont like wobbles, the more the wobbles will become crappy because there will be a divide, and the more the deep and minimal will become elitist..neithers gonna help anyone

At the moment, at least, I don't see many people taking sides 'for or against wobbles' or anything. Most of the complaints seem to be from people who like to hear a bit of both who've gone out and heard nothing but big wobbly anthems.

Oh, and if we're doing overthinking things again, I guess it's fair game to link to a Simon Reynolds thing apropos of nothing.

Yeah I think Joe's right in that it's shit when the more (if you want) 'creative' element distances itself from the dancefloor in a genre, but personally I don't dislike wobble/jump up style tunes in every case, it's more down to DJs representing something other than that.

All i can say is that everything in this world is a myriad of cultures, so its music! an infinity amount of possibilities.
Music is always converging and tending to creat hybrids, its like a cyclical process.

Shonky wrote:Surely it's a bit difficult to say whether something is influenced by dubstep or it's just a more bass heavy version of a previous sound

wouldn't you agree though, that these are both one and the same a lot of the time - i mean the influences and ideals that made people start creating 'dubstep' music also make people create music which has similar ethics (a prominent sub-bass element adding a new dimension to the rhythm).
Obviously though, there are many people too who decide to make music that works within whatever they consider to be the genre confines of dubstep.

In response to boomnoise's question, i am definitely feeling the 'dabblings' of most of those artists he mentions, especially that Modeselektor track from the new album that has Paul St. Hillaire on it thats very accessible to a wider audience i think, compared to something like the Cyrus or Pinch albums. Boxcutter too, his new album sounds like it could (should) reach a lot of ears. Why i think 'accessibility' is a big thing is because it means the sound will be influencing much more people than the core fans, and therefore indirectly creating more music that bears the hallmarks of the genre. This could be considered as a 'watering-down' effect but its natural in the progression/growth of a genre innit.

Oh speaking of which, Hot Chip played Cockney Thug on Thursday night!