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Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 12:01 am
by saxenhammer
For a lot of people, making music is something very special to them...to the point that, they dont want to try and make money out of it because thats going to put unnecessary pressures on them to make financial gain, when all they want to do is make music that they love without external pressures,timescales etc..
Theyre the people who would rather work 9-5 than be in the studio all day.
Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 12:09 am
by batfink
how many artists actually make a decent living just from writing tunes?
i would have thought it was dj'ing/performing that paid the bills for all but the very best producers.
Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 12:16 am
by chef
Saxenhammer wrote:For a lot of people, making music is something very special to them...to the point that, they dont want to try and make money out of it because thats going to put unnecessary pressures on them to make financial gain, when all they want to do is make music that they love without external pressures,timescales etc..
Theyre the people who would rather work 9-5 than be in the studio all day.
If someone said them people that you can get exactly the same amount of money to do your passion, wether it be designing graphics or making music fulltime rather than flipping burgers in a dead end job how many people would say yes and how could you blame them?
I can tell you now far a fact, I could earn a hell of alot more money if I didn't do music fulltime and worked in a sweaty office, atleast 4 times the amount I get now, honestly.
I do music because I get the job satisfaction and wake up everyday happy with my life being around my greatest passion music and not having to work for some tnuc as a pawn who couldn't care less.
Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 12:17 am
by sand leaper
Chef wrote:
1. I'm not getting at that you need to be a fulltime producer to create a ''request line'' but that by having the freedom to concentrate on making beats it will lead to more ''request lines'' from that producer.
More time to make music does not necessarily equal more musical freedom. What good is more time to concentrate on beats when a producer conforms them to the pressures of his label or the crowd because he needs to make enough money from them?
2. As for people like Neil, isn't it the opposite as he has less time to be creative and would tend to stick more mass appealing music to keep up as you say?
No, because money isn't his main motivation for making music.
Who are the producers that you know who would prefer to work 9 til 5 rather than be in their home studio making music.
I never said they preferred to work 9 to 5 over making music. I said they prefer working 9 to 5 if it means that they can keep on making exactly the kind of music they want, without having a bunch of people on your back telling you what kind of release they want from you next, otherwise things will flop and you won't make enough money.
Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 12:25 am
by tempest
fuck i wish i was at home making beats instead of being here at my 9-5..
I forgot what this thread is about
Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 12:39 am
by -blade-
what is the best idea without possibilities???
Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 1:03 am
by slothrop
Sand Leaper wrote:
More time to make music does not necessarily equal more musical freedom. What good is more time to concentrate on beats when a producer conforms them to the pressures of his label or the crowd because he needs to make enough money from them?
Yeah, but it's not exactly our position to turn around and say to Skream (or whoever) "sorry, we've decided you'd make better music if you stayed poor so we're just gonna steal all your music." What's next - "sorry, your new girlfriend is likely to distract you from making tunes, so we told her that you said she was ugly but at least she'd be an easy lay."
Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 1:36 am
by ddk
@ Saxenhammer & Sand Leaper
How the fuck can you disrespect an artist purely because he earns a living off what he does?
So you think being working 9 - 5 in fucking tele-sales is more honourable than making a success of your art?
What kind of value system is that.
Paying your rent is not equivalent to selling out. Anyone who makes good music and works hard can make a living off it. Truth.
Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 1:51 am
by saxenhammer
Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 3:03 am
by dopplegangbanger
Saxenhammer wrote:I think this track is horrendous...I love noisy ,weird stuff but this track just seems like a waste of everyones time apart from the skream groupies obviously...maybe its just me.
It is extremely funny how a guy who talks about using slsk even though he obviously buys a fuckload of records gets it in the neck from the dubstep mafia.
Soulseek gives people who's entire existence isnt based around 1 STUPID FUCKING SCENE, a chance to hear things from many different forms of music that they would previously never have had the chance to hear...Yes,thats correct,theyre not paying for it but they wouldnt have bought it anyway.Call me a tnuc if you want, but thats a fact.Obviously theres people who abuse it and see it as an excuse to not have to buy music at all but as far as I can see thats not the case here.
P2P is the way it is in 2007.No matter how much telling off and moaning you do,its here to stay.Get used to it.
dude, as far as i can tell, from where im sitting, you are most definately a tnuc of the highest order.
i hope your mother actually had kids that lived too.
Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 3:05 am
by tempest
Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 3:05 am
by dopplegangbanger
Sand Leaper wrote:Chef wrote:
1. I'm not getting at that you need to be a fulltime producer to create a ''request line'' but that by having the freedom to concentrate on making beats it will lead to more ''request lines'' from that producer.
More time to make music does not necessarily equal more musical freedom. What good is more time to concentrate on beats when a producer conforms them to the pressures of his label or the crowd because he needs to make enough money from them?
2. As for people like Neil, isn't it the opposite as he has less time to be creative and would tend to stick more mass appealing music to keep up as you say?
No, because money isn't his main motivation for making music.
Who are the producers that you know who would prefer to work 9 til 5 rather than be in their home studio making music.
I never said they preferred to work 9 to 5 over making music. I said they prefer working 9 to 5 if it means that they can keep on making exactly the kind of music they want, without having a bunch of people on your back telling you what kind of release they want from you next, otherwise things will flop and you won't make enough money.
oh look, its everyones favourtite -argue for the sake of arguing, even though they dont know what the fuck they are talking about - sand leaper! yay!
is this neil guy a friend of yours? related? you? no. didnt think so.
GET A FUCKING GIRLFRIEND!!!!
Re: skream - fuckin nutter
Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 4:34 am
by freqone
Le_Hardcore_Chiefus wrote:how is this correctly spelt..?
cant find it on soulseek..?
is it in any mixes..heard its a banger also!!! better than lemon..?
get a job
Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 9:08 am
by pdomino
Le_Hardcore_Chiefus wrote:pdomino wrote:Just more scope to cop the shit you want bruv
I feel dirty if Ive got 'downloaded' mp3's
you can sling me some money to pay 4 em if u want as i`ve goyt none left after i have bought my records
Aint slingin' you shit
Maybe you`ll start paying download then. Costs less to be honest.
Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 9:58 am
by Steve AC23
So, how about that local sports team?
Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 10:03 am
by djfurness
I know Le_Hardcore_Chiefus very well, and although I think hes done silly here (!), I will back him up and say that there is hardly anyone as devoted to buying music as he is, he lives and breathes music, and his record collection is a true sight to behold.
And if you wanna speak about supporting small scenes, go take a look at his Hardcore/Breakcore collection, its absolutely unreal, full of tunes hes paid proper wedge for, and that hes been offered lots of cash for but refuses to sell, because he loves them so much.
So shooting a man down because he wanted one tune seems a bit pathetic to me, you all need to look at the bigger picture.
Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 2:55 pm
by saxenhammer
Im a huge fan of soulseek...In fact, I think I might turn it on now and do a few lols in the dubstep room
Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 4:21 pm
by signus
Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 5:03 pm
by sand leaper
Dopplegangbanger wrote:
is this neil guy a friend of yours? related? you? no. didnt think so.
There's this interesting thing called interviews where artists talk about their music. You should try reading some of those. Hell, you might even learn something worthwhile to contribute with instead of pathetic schoolyard insults.
Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 5:26 pm
by upreal
On topic: I really do hope that fucking nutter gets released. Possibly my favourite skream tune.
