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if you conveniently dismiss every piece of good evidence that comes along it will never amount to much will it

there are enough pieces of the puzzle out there to put together a clear picture. it does get less clear when you go further out there like reptilians running the tv networks, but stuff like the government covering up all evidence of the UFO phenomenon and NASA lying about house sized comets that defy the laws of physics is all supported by really solid evidence.

so far the best argument i've gotten against the NASA videos and correspondence is that its merely unexplainable phenomenon and there's no way its aliens.

that phoenix lights shit was really strange though. i was living in az at the time and knew a few people that saw it.

i was in texas at the time having an episode at a rave where i flipped out because i was convinced there was a mothership overhead communicating with me. didn't even hear about the phoenix lights till this year.

Dude, it's so unfair, you guys get all the Aliens. Stop being so greedy and send some over here.

Parson wrote:i was in texas at the time having an episode at a rave where i flipped out because i was convinced there was a mothership overhead communicating with me.

Anything you try an argue about aliens will just go over peoples heads even more so now.

Future Producer wrote:

Parson wrote:i was in texas at the time having an episode at a rave where i flipped out because i was convinced there was a mothership overhead communicating with me.

Anything you try an argue about aliens will just go over peoples heads even more so now.

i take a little bit of sadistic pride in ppl thinking i'm crazy when i know they're wrong.

DEFINITELY biggest proof you need to convince of this here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AfwBoumNpmc

Parson wrote:

Parson wrote:also lookin' for comments on these

Parson wrote:fox news says americans need to get ready for full disclosure from the government about the extraterrestrial involvement in human affairs
http://youtube.com/watch?v=AkJioOcQ5-U&feature=related

Parson wrote:canada says to prepare for intergalactic war
http://youtube.com/watch?v=J5HL5OFXhMM&feature=related

what about these

Too much effort at 8:30. I'll get back to you.

It seems to me that the main issue in this thread is 'which media sources should you trust?'

paolo wrote:It seems to me that the main issue in this thread is 'which media sources should you trust?'

Solid news websites like the BBC or channels like Sky News. These are about the only two news channels/sites you can actually read/watch and get decent information from (the BBC more so). Channels like Fox News are no better than gutter press rags like The Sun or the National Enquirer and do not deserve the amount of viewers they get. In fact Fox should be renamed to "The right-wing-bush-loving-bias-propaganda-spreading-so-called-news channel".

And Wikipedia, like 90% of the Internet is unreliable. People point to Wiki as if it's a 100% reliable news source, but it isn't.

Ok, so, Im not too sure about the Reptiles in the videos, espcially since I live in LA and watch 'Good Day LA' to fall asleep every morning after the night shift and saw the Jeanna Bush interview live, along with a bunch of the other clips on there with 'transformations' and didnt see anything or notice anything weird when in happened. Especially the one with the producer, if you look closely her clothing is 'transforming' too. Definately some after effects bizness going on there...

I found some great footage though, of this retired Air Force Pilot, supposedly one of the best ever, who used to fly 'experimental' aircraft. He went into such detail and said so many things that can be cross referenced that it is hard to deny all of this ufo talk as fake. I was looking for it, but I cant think of his name... it was a 14 pt set of clips on youtube... and Ive noticed that in this day and age of internet immediacy that there seems to be alot more people int he govt coming forward about what goes on at area 51 and other govt facilities that have to do with aliens and UFOs

when I just searched for the pilot, I found this one, along with a bunch of other ufo vids... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGp85bSTrfA - I find these kind of 'everyman' random accounts much more intresting, especially when they come from people like cops and govenors (that Phoenix Lights shit is really weird, the amount of people that saw it... )

My roomate is really into this stuff, claims to have had a few EBE and UFO contact experiences and has footage of one somewhere. His friend was actually on 'Sightings' and came up with a way of looking at the sun and the daytime sky for UFOs thats similar to looking at an eclipse, was interviewed on the show about it. They both spent a summer filming with this technique and have a bunch of footage at his friends house. They both say there are way more UFOs out during the day cause its harder to see them with the human eye.

I dunno about conspiracies and Reptilians controlling the Govt, but I definately do not think we are alone in the Universe, and if thats the case, its reasonable to believe that there are aliens advanced enough to have made it here and that they are exploring our solar system and observing us.

And Parson, as far as communicating with the alien ship during the 'Lights', have you looked into Terrance McKenna and some of his theories that drugs were put on our planet by aliens as a way of communicating with us? He has some intresting ideas about DMT's purpose in our world and hallucinegenic's role in human devlopment.

We live in a complex and intresting world, thats for damn sure.

Terrance McKenna's theories are just that, it's the DMT that made him the way he was. As soon as you start talking about drugs and aliens it blows those theories right out of the water and they can never be taken seriously.

Future Producer wrote:Terrance McKenna's theories are just that, it's the DMT that made him the way he was. As soon as you start talking about drugs and aliens it blows those theories right out of the water and they can never be taken seriously.

I dunno, he did alot of research about drugs before DMT, in fact wasnt it his research that led him to DMT? His theory about psylocibin and its effect on human development is pretty interesting stuff.

True its just theoretical, but just because it has to do with drugs that makes it completely unbelievable?

Im not trying to be an advocate of drugs or anything on those means, but there is a lot of unexplained stuff that happens when on drugs and alot about our universe thats a lot harder to believe than drugs allowing the mind to percieve things that the normal filters of the human brain dont let us when sober. The thing about his theory that gets me is that so many other people have seen the same hallucinations as he did down to the details. The little 'people', the 'ribbons' of information, the 'visual language', the 'alter/control desk/console', the sense of knowing all... too much to just be coincidental whatever the cause.

Maybe your mind just hasnt been expanded enough yet, man.

Enough about drugs though, back to aliens

they're not transforming or shapeshifting, their cloak's are causing interference

like when you watch a video screen on a camera and you can see how the interlacing causes patterns to show up that you can't see without the camera.

its the youtube compression that causes it.

also i'll tell you about terence mckenna in person some day. i'll sound even crazier if i tried to explain here

kidlogic: You might be interested in Dr. Rick Strassman's book "DMT: The Spirit Molecule". He actually done a fair amount of research on DMT in the University of New Mexico's School of Medicine in the 90s.

Here's a snippet:

In 1990, I began the first new human research with psychedelic, or hallucinogenic, drugs in the United States in over 20 years. These studies investigated the effects of N,N-dimethyltryptamine, or DMT, an extremely short-acting and powerful psychedelic. During the project's five years, I administered approximately 400 doses of DMT to 60 human volunteers. This research took place at the University of New Mexico's School of Medicine in Albuquerque, where I was tenured Associate Professor of Psychiatry.

I was drawn to DMT because of its presence in all of our bodies. Perhaps excessive DMT production, coming from the mysterious pineal gland, was involved in naturally occurring "psychedelic" states. These might include birth, death and near-death, psychosis, and mystical experiences. Only later, while the study was well under way, did I also begin considering DMT's role in the "alien abduction" experience.

http://www.rickstrassman.com/pages/dmt/

The book is very interesting, it's hard to put down.

Also you might be interested in the best drugs Podcast on the Internet which is the Psychonautica show on the Dopecast. In one of the earlier shows Max's mate smokes DMT live and describes the effects etc. I'd recommend listening if your interested in psychedelics as I am, it's a really good show. Lot's of cool stuff on entheogens

http://dopecast.libsyn.com/index.php?po ... chonautica

Parson, just to prove even more you are believing a ridiculous lie.

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oh look somebody wrote text on some screenshots boy do i have egg on my face

Well do you care to explain why there are two perfect lines going across the head in a triangle shape and in to the hair? You can even see how transparent it is. It's so fake, I cannot believe your still kidding yourself.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6EbDZnkmVw

discuss...

"i guess the negative side effect of it is the aliens folding space in my ass"

When the reptiles finally get here, will I be able to bone one?

Future Producer wrote:Well do you care to explain why there are two perfect lines going across the head in a triangle shape and in to the hair? You can even see how transparent it is. It's so fake, I cannot believe your still kidding yourself.

all the shapes that emerge are totally geometric. it looks like a checkerboard or stripes. i don't understand what shapes you think are going to come up in this kind of situation that is disproved by triangles